Hard Starting After Filter Change
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I replaced the engine filter; no leaks. Truck started and ran normal.
Loveland Ford replaced the lower water separator and fuel filter. Now when the truck sits for a spell, it cranks for a couple seconds before it will start. I'm assuming the system isn't holding pressure over time. Could this be related the the fuel filter changes? Anything I can check before I take it back to Loveland Ford?
Loveland Ford replaced the lower water separator and fuel filter. Now when the truck sits for a spell, it cranks for a couple seconds before it will start. I'm assuming the system isn't holding pressure over time. Could this be related the the fuel filter changes? Anything I can check before I take it back to Loveland Ford?
there is a ford video somewhere that shows how to start a push. Button diesel.
the push button diesel does not start the same way a push button gas vehicle does.
also, my truck was starting sluggish so I torqued the battery clamp nuts and all the. It’s for wires that attach to the battery clamps. Starts fine now. I think I torqued to 40 inch pounds.
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Mountain Pass
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From: Loveland CO & NTB NC
:: UPDATE ::
Ford service at it's finest; not.
1.) Returned truck to the service department to check the fitment of the lower filter. Result:
Ford: "Your passenger battery is getting close to replacement and your drivers side battery terminals are loose."
Me: "Did you check the filter fitment?"
Ford: "Yes, it's fine".
Ford then schedules me for a battery clamp replacement. I say OK, but can you re-check the bottom filter. I take the truck in for the third time. They call me to explain the lower filter was put on incorrectly, and they've fixed it; no charge. But to replace the battery cable clamp, they need to keep the truck for another day and have me pay $252.00 because they don't have one in stock.
I complain and ask how we go from check the filter fitment to electrical system diagnoses. Ford returned the truck; no charge, no battery cable clamp and as of this morning after sitting overnight, still hard starting. I guess in some sense, that is five star service. They did provide me with Uber rides to and from the dealership.
I'll buy a new set of OEM filters and have somebody else install them in a couple weeks, since we're towing our rig from Colorado to North Carolina.
Ford service at it's finest; not.
1.) Returned truck to the service department to check the fitment of the lower filter. Result:
Ford: "Your passenger battery is getting close to replacement and your drivers side battery terminals are loose."
Me: "Did you check the filter fitment?"
Ford: "Yes, it's fine".
Ford then schedules me for a battery clamp replacement. I say OK, but can you re-check the bottom filter. I take the truck in for the third time. They call me to explain the lower filter was put on incorrectly, and they've fixed it; no charge. But to replace the battery cable clamp, they need to keep the truck for another day and have me pay $252.00 because they don't have one in stock.
I complain and ask how we go from check the filter fitment to electrical system diagnoses. Ford returned the truck; no charge, no battery cable clamp and as of this morning after sitting overnight, still hard starting. I guess in some sense, that is five star service. They did provide me with Uber rides to and from the dealership.
I'll buy a new set of OEM filters and have somebody else install them in a couple weeks, since we're towing our rig from Colorado to North Carolina.
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:: UPDATE ::
Ford service at it's finest; not.
1.) Returned truck to the service department to check the fitment of the lower filter. Result:
Ford: "Your passenger battery is getting close to replacement and your drivers side battery terminals are loose."
Me: "Did you check the filter fitment?"
Ford: "Yes, it's fine".
Ford then schedules me for a battery clamp replacement. I say OK, but can you re-check the bottom filter. I take the truck in for the third time. They call me to explain the lower filter was put on incorrectly, and they've fixed it; no charge. But to replace the battery cable clamp, they need to keep the truck for another day and have me pay $252.00 because they don't have one in stock.
I complain and ask how we go from check the filter fitment to electrical system diagnoses. Ford returned the truck; no charge, no battery cable clamp and as of this morning after sitting overnight, still hard starting. I guess i some sense, that is five star service. They did provide me with Uber rides to and from the dealership.
I'll buy a new set of OEM filters and have somebody else install them in a couple weeks, since we're towing our rig from Colorado to North Carolina.
Ford service at it's finest; not.
1.) Returned truck to the service department to check the fitment of the lower filter. Result:
Ford: "Your passenger battery is getting close to replacement and your drivers side battery terminals are loose."
Me: "Did you check the filter fitment?"
Ford: "Yes, it's fine".
Ford then schedules me for a battery clamp replacement. I say OK, but can you re-check the bottom filter. I take the truck in for the third time. They call me to explain the lower filter was put on incorrectly, and they've fixed it; no charge. But to replace the battery cable clamp, they need to keep the truck for another day and have me pay $252.00 because they don't have one in stock.
I complain and ask how we go from check the filter fitment to electrical system diagnoses. Ford returned the truck; no charge, no battery cable clamp and as of this morning after sitting overnight, still hard starting. I guess i some sense, that is five star service. They did provide me with Uber rides to and from the dealership.
I'll buy a new set of OEM filters and have somebody else install them in a couple weeks, since we're towing our rig from Colorado to North Carolina.
Tuned
Joined: Dec 2021
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Vetigo
I'm old damit! For some odd reason, when I lie down on my back and roll under the truck, I experience a wave of dizziness, then nausea, then the cold sweats. ERGO, the dealer changed out the bottom filter for me.
Once started, it ill restart normally. It's only when it sits overnight that it takes 3-4 seconds to start. I'll take a longer drive today, and if it persists, I'll take it back to the dealer.
Once started, it ill restart normally. It's only when it sits overnight that it takes 3-4 seconds to start. I'll take a longer drive today, and if it persists, I'll take it back to the dealer.
The lift pump cycling should purge any trapped air in your primary fuel filter/water separator. You could have a shop use an OBDII scanner to monitor the fuel pressures in the system.
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Mountain Pass
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From: Loveland CO & NTB NC
:: FINAL UPDATE ::
Factory fuel filter/water separator installed. Problem gone. Batteries gave a low voltage fault after sitting in 20 degree weather for a few days. I'll round up a couple new ones when we get back to Colorado.
Factory fuel filter/water separator installed. Problem gone. Batteries gave a low voltage fault after sitting in 20 degree weather for a few days. I'll round up a couple new ones when we get back to Colorado.
Tuned
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: Washington state
Glad you finally got everything sorted out. It’s amazing how hard these trucks are on batteries. When I had my 2016 powerstroke I was on my third set in 6 years. Counting the first Motorcraft leakers. And yes I am another {Old} person on this forum. 👨🏻🦳👨🏻🦳
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