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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 11:12 PM
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Intake electric valve assembly 2004 question

I removed the butterfly 20 years ago.

I was replacing the water pump and hoses today and thought what a clutter the assembly is on the top. Is there a complete replacement available to remove the servo assembly, tall enough to hook to the IC plumbing? Will it set a CEL if all the connectors are left unplugged?

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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 06:43 AM
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I think the later elbows fit up. Chris may have done that.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 09:24 AM
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Thank you

I did read the 2005-2007 elbow will fit. Not even sure what this contraption was meant to do other than restrict.

Perhaps Chris will chime in later. My main concern is unplugging everything and running around with a CEL.

This is from Sinister's install for their elbow: https://sinisterdiesel.com/mm5/graph...-INTEL-6.0.pdf

The fit was my main question, now the CEL (if any).
 
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I think that depends on the programming. With my Ford service 6.0 there was no electronics behind the covers. The harness plugs plugged in, but went to nothing. No problems. In your case probably the easiest tell would be to disconnect those plugs and then run the truck to see if you get any codes. You can easily wipe out the codes afterwards if you get any. And you could test if the engine is running poorly. That would tell you if you could go ahead and put it on the newer elbow.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 10:47 AM
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I haven't seen or heard of any issues w/ unplugging and running.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 11:00 AM
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I have a feeling my GH Performance tunes most likely eliminated this item in the programming.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 08:50 PM
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Almost all of the aftermarket elbows eliminate the throttle body assembly. If you want to keep the stock 03-04 elbow, you can order a spacer from S&B that doesn't have all the connections and unnecessary bulk of the stock part for about $100 shipped.




Still haven't installed mine, but I have checked and know it will work.

As for CEL's, I have had three different stock tunes in this truck and none had an issue with the harness not being plugged in at the throttle body.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2024 | 07:40 AM
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Thanks for all the help. I bought a complete elbow replacement and will see how it functions with regards to the CEL triggering.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2024 | 07:47 AM
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I doubt you'll see anything.

Edit - For the majority, the actuator and sensors were never used, so they should not be active in the software.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 10:25 PM
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I am certain you boys will laugh at me but I bought this:
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Before you laugh I received it the other day and the outer tig welds are good, the inside disaster not so much. I took my dremel tool and eased the imperfections to make a pretty nice usable elbow.

I was going to buy a name brand but they were a month out (those that had welded bungs) and the ready to go offered no bungs for boost gauge.

I will not trust the oring provided that is most likely CHYNA crap, so I bought an OEM oring.

All in all I will install tomorrow and see what happens. The elbow is solid and has a nice lip for the CAC hose on it that most do not.

I'll keep you updated on CEL or issues.

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Old Sep 13, 2024 | 07:45 PM
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Installed the "test" elbow and no issues or CEL.

I will probably invest in a nicer elbow that uses the OEM oring I purchased to use with the low buck piece from amazon. The machined groove would only accept the thin o-ring it came with, and I really don't have much confidence in it. I am sure I am overthinking it at this point, but that's all I need is the cheap o-ring to fail then I am really out of luck.

This is a much nicer piece that uses the OEM oring: https://rcdperf.com/products/6-0-pow...19173182373952
 
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 05:26 PM
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I don't know why you're so worried about the o-ring, but the RCD part doesn't look deep enough for the stock gasket either. Have you contacted them to verify?

 
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 06:04 PM
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If the o-ring was BUNA or silicone I probably would not think twice. The o-ring is a standard .50 piece that over time may not take heat cycles as the OEM does, and I'd rather not find out.

The amazon elbow has a very poor internal finish that I was able to clean up with my dremel but overall I am not too happy with it. For the 40.00 spent I'll give it to a buddy or hang onto it.

The site specifically states "Uses Reusable OE Seal" under the Review/Descriptions section, which is the only elbow I found that accepts the OEM seal.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 07:43 PM
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Doesn't the later model elbow fit?

Never tried it.



 
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 07:47 PM
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Yes it absolutely does fit. The aftermarket have similar dimensions except for the inside is not squared like the OEM, they are mandrel bent.
 
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