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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 09:37 AM
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Battery wiring upgrade cable?

I'm going to be running a 180amp alternator soon so figure I should upgrade the wiring as well and just curious if this wire will work just fine?

https://www.princessauto.com/en/25-f...t/PA0009169251

25' for 20 bucks is a price that makes me happy and 25' should give me plenty enough to replace everything and yeah it's all red so whatever pieces I use for negative I'll wrap in this stuff:

https://www.princessauto.com/en/expa...t/PA1000000693

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The stock wiring will handle a 180a fine. If you feel the need, you only need to run a parallel 4GA cable; even 8GA would work. It should be fused.

 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
The stock wiring will handle a 180a fine. If you feel the need, you only need to run a parallel 4GA cable; even 8GA would work. It should be fused.

https://youtu.be/Be_g2UKbGqc

Fused how exactly and which wire to run parallel?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wpg_250
I'm going to be running a 180amp alternator soon so figure I should upgrade the wiring as well and just curious if this wire will work just fine?

https://www.princessauto.com/en/25-f...t/PA0009169251

25' for 20 bucks is a price that makes me happy and 25' should give me plenty enough to replace everything and yeah it's all red so whatever pieces I use for negative I'll wrap in this stuff:

https://www.princessauto.com/en/expa...t/PA1000000693

Thanks
the temperature rating throws a red flag for me
 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by runthatjunk
the temperature rating throws a red flag for me
-40 to +176 is not sufficient?



 
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
The stock wiring will handle a 180a fine. If you feel the need, you only need to run a parallel 4GA cable; even 8GA would work. It should be fused.
While I admire your proficiency, expertise and videos I'm mostly at a loss when it comes to the amount of technical stuff you talk about. When it comes to stuff like this I am but a simple coal mine worker and you are a NASA engineer and I do better with "TAKE THIS AND PUT THERE" type directions lol.

I'm not sure if my battery wiring is stock or not, but previous owner did a lot of upgrades so could be upgraded wiring already, but terminal attachments could be redone for sure. My goal at the moment is to remove all the unnecessary wiring that was added on for accessories that are no longer working/in place like running boards, flood lights, led strips etc and make sure my battery wiring is up to snuff including all grounds so today I'm removing the batteries, CAC tubes, air intake, alternator and whatnot to get better access to the wiring and when I put back together I'm putting in the Bosch 135amp unit to see if the current Napa reman is what's causing my idle rpm issue....and I'll also be upgrading the Airdog motor wiring once I trace it all down.

This is what everything currently looks like:









 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 03:24 PM
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From what I see, your biggest issue are these bare wires. Not only for a short potential, but it allows moisture and humidity to enter the strands and promote corrosion. I'd tape them up.





If you search this site for my handle and the term voltage or wires, you'll find many years of posts.

A 4ga 18-24" hole to hole cable would work fine for you. It can be laid in this manner.








I've used Blue Sea fuses and holders on my truck and threads. You can also use these other fuse holders, although they require and additional cable of a few inches to connect to the battery.. The fuse size of 125a is good, the load is shared with the OE cable. All of this can be found on Amazon.





 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wpg_250
-40 to +176 is not sufficient?


I don't know if that's a common rating for automotive wire but I would think a number that covers the operating temperature range of 180-210 would be better. If that's just a number when the insulation starts to get too soft, then with proper mounting it likely wouldn't matter.
 
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The big issue for me is that it's copper-clad aluminum.
 
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Not sure on the Canadian site version.

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Copper, 105ºc
 
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
The big issue for me is that it's copper-clad aluminum.
Why is that an issue exactly?

And the 4g hot wire from alternator to passenger side battery post...........that is to replace what's already there or is in conjunction with?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wpg_250
I'm going to be running a 180amp alternator soon so figure I should upgrade the wiring as well and just curious if this wire will work just fine?

https://www.princessauto.com/en/25-f...t/PA0009169251

25' for 20 bucks is a price that makes me happy and 25' should give me plenty enough to replace everything and yeah it's all red so whatever pieces I use for negative I'll wrap in this stuff:

https://www.princessauto.com/en/expa...t/PA1000000693

Thanks
That’s some pretty cheap wiring you found…


Where are you? BC?

Find a local Marine, or welding equipment supplier. Princess auto (Cdn version of Harbor Freight) is for cheap tools and trailer light bulbs imho, I wouldn't go to them for parts and materials. Good copper wiring is not cheap anymore.

Also just to note, the wiring laid out in the pictures above, desperately needs some anti chafe and be tied / stood off. I’m sure it is just showing the layout, but wanted to make note for WPG.

Good luck WPG, have fun.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JJF20
That’s some pretty cheap wiring you found…


Where are you? BC?

Find a local Marine, or welding equipment supplier. Princess auto (Cdn version of Harbor Freight) is for cheap tools and trailer light bulbs imho, I wouldn't go to them for parts and materials. Good copper wiring is not cheap anymore.

Also just to note, the wiring laid out in the pictures above, desperately needs some anti chafe and be tied / stood off. I’m sure it is just showing the layout, but wanted to make note for WPG.

Good luck WPG, have fun.
Nope not in BC. User name kinda gives it away lol.

At the moment I'm just looking to make inexpensive upgrades/improvements as come next spring I'll be dropping a PILE more cash into the truck for a rust free cab, engine upgrades, frame blasting/painting etc etc and after a conversation with Automedic Garage I'm seriously considering upgrading the cab to a 2016 which will of course be expensive and require a good deal of modifications, but it CAN be done and it's something I'm going to research and plan out over the winter. Yes kind of crazy, but will make for an amazing truck and a darn good "How To" thread
 
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Old Sep 1, 2024 | 08:46 PM
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Winterpeg it is, lol. Lots of local industrial shops / suppliers there for wiring supplies.

If you’re going to be re wiring everything, maybe consider waiting until all the mods and just cleaning up what you have for now, just a thought. Make a build thread when you get there.
 
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Black on black isn't a good visual.
 
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