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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 04:24 PM
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I have a crew cab and I needed a pre pump solutions kit which replaced the lines to both tanks but most importantly the rear tank. The stock lines are too restrictive. That was my experience and not everyone had this situation. I installed the vacuum gauge that the Marty's kit came with which tells you if the pump is working too hard to pull the fuel from the rear tank. I have before and after readings and can confirm it helped reduce the vacuum.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Harveyearlolstad
I have a crew cab and I needed a pre pump solutions kit which replaced the lines to both tanks but most importantly the rear tank. The stock lines are too restrictive. That was my experience and not everyone had this situation. I installed the vacuum gauge that the Marty's kit came with which tells you if the pump is working too hard to pull the fuel from the rear tank. I have before and after readings and can confirm it helped reduce the vacuum.
so it's mainly just bigger ID lines? The more i ask about this im about to pull the trigger on a kit. If the wife doesnt kill me before it gets here lol
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 04:34 PM
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Lol, I know what you mean. All my upgrades are done with side job money.

Yes the lines are a little larger inside diameter. Just be prepared to drop both tanks or pull the bed off. Checking the sending units and shower heads in the tank is preferred follow every step in the instructions/videos.

After I installed the kits I was disappointed with the vacuum readings because I thought the selector switch was causing the restrictiveness beyond the pumps limitations. Then I was considering going with a 40/38 gal rear tank and eliminating the front which I did not want to do. But after replacing the lines I was relieved to see the readings drop enough to be acceptable.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Harveyearlolstad
Lol, I know what you mean. All my upgrades are done with side job money.

Yes the lines are a little larger inside diameter. Just be prepared to drop both tanks or pull the bed off. Checking the sending units and shower heads in the tank is preferred follow every step in the instructions/videos.

After I installed the kits I was disappointed with the vacuum readings because I thought the selector switch was causing the restrictiveness beyond the pumps limitations. Then I was considering going with a 40/38 gal rear tank and eliminating the front which I did not want to do. But after replacing the lines I was relieved to see the readings drop enough to be acceptable.
ahh okay, so now you havnt had any issues since geting the pre pump solution package? I need to get a Gauge to check my fuel pressure. Think my mechanical pump might be getting weak. PO replaced both tanks and both sending units with in the last couple years. Had to drop the front tank to weld patches into the frame. So I looked inside seems pretty clean but still going to probably clean tanks and sending units. I need to find time for side jobs but unfortunately most of my tools are at work. Before I bought my house I lived in a trailer and had no where to keep a tool box so I would get hand me downs sets missing sockets, random wrenches, screwdrivers, ect. So now I'm trying to build up both inventories, I have like 20 something testing kits, special use tools but random **** just thrown into a cart and a Dewalt master set, and a craftsman impact that I have to hold upside down or zip tie the battery on or it falls off when you press the trigger lol.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 04:50 PM
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@fordman67 tons of shims in that package I sent to Khan, it has three compressors and a mic. Bum it if needed for your head job. Also curious how whipped yours are when examined.

I think I had something hilarious seat pressure wise about 43psi once taken into consideration seat/valve wear and spring wear.

My efuel is Mark F's. Fine for my needs. @96SD has a diff kit I believe.
I have the Irate setup. Like @Harveyearlolstad I was unable to use my rear tank until I changed the lines to parker 801-6 seemed to reduce the vacuum enough to stop the pump from screaming at least. My pump is a Bosch 200. You can make your own setup with QD from the jungle store and parker line form anywhere and spend around half. After seeing how much the vacuum was reduced I changed all my lines input and return on both tanks to the 801 line.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 04:52 PM
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I have the Irate setup. Like https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/member.php?u=883970 I was unable to use my rear tank until I changed the lines to parker 801-6 seemed to reduce the vacuum enough to stop the pump from screaming at least. My pump is a Bosch 200. You can make your own setup with QD from the jungle store and parker line form anywhere and spend around half. After seeing how much the vacuum was reduced I changed all my lines input and return on both tanks to the 801 line.
I was thinking about building my own set up but idk
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevenm95
I was thinking about building my own set up but idk
Im not talking about the entire kit I'm talking about the "pre pump solution" kit. Its just parker 801-6 and some QD. The parker is a good choice because it has a vacuum rating of something like 27 Inch-Hg.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 05:39 PM
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Im not talking about the entire kit I'm talking about the "pre pump solution" kit. Its just parker 801-6 and some QD. The parker is a good choice because it has a vacuum rating of something like 27 Inch-Hg.
QD? Meaning Quick Disconnect? Ahh lol my bad
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 05:50 PM
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My first Walbro took a dump, not seen where they are Diesel rated. Boosch states they are, so got me. The current Walbroski seems fine, I run a lot of B99 so who knows if that plays a factor.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 05:58 PM
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My first Walbro took a dump, not seen where they are Diesel rated. Boosch states they are, so got me. The current Walbroski seems fine, I run a lot of B99 so who knows if that plays a factor.
ahh so it's basically just whatever you prefer kinda situation. Didn't know if one could flow more than the other.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 06:11 PM
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so what's the kit for crew cab? is it like a 2 pumps system because of the distance it needs to be pulled and pushed?
2 pump system to keep up with demand of larger injectors. There are plenty of bigger single pumps that will do the job. I happen to have another good bosch pump lying around and the 444fab base to mount it. They sell very nice stuff.

My ex cab long bed has the pump outside frame and tucked up under the bed pretty close to the front spring hanger for the rear leafs.

Haven't heard of anyone needing dual pumps to push fuel on our rigs due to distance. Most e fuel set ups are regulated return, so the FPR is on the end of system, allowing the injectors to keep more consistent FP.

Keep in mind these pumps like to push, not suck, so the closer to the tanks the better in my opinion.
 
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I only have 205s so unsure how much pump I would need max effort. Apparently new Boosch available that is Diesel rated that flows like a MFer.
 
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Flow curve for the bosch 200 which is their new diesel rated pump. I think the flow is part of my problem with vacuum. Before I changed the lines when the glow plugs were running the pump would be just about silent. Once the glow plugs shut off and the pump got full voltage and full flow it started screaming. From what it looks like the pump can run at between 6-15V. Running the pump at 10V would be plenty of flow according to the chart.
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What you having done?
Check them out after an engine implosion. Just get a clean bill of health for the new mill.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2024 | 04:31 AM
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Check them out after an engine implosion. Just get a clean bill of health for the new mill.
yeah I was reading about that damn man.
 
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