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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 03:38 PM
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1976 f700 engine swap

I am doing an engine swap 360 with 360.... keeping the duraspark ign that came with replacement engine.
struggling to find a supplier for some odds and ends like clutch fork, flywheel ring gear.... also recommendations for ign module... thnks in advance
 
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Welcome to FTE.

I moved you here as an F700 will be a different swap than a pickup of the same vintage.

As OEM, your truck would not have a 360 FE. It might have a 361 FT, which is the same basic design but which differs in mounting, and a host of other details.

What's in your truck now?

If you have a 361 with a manual transmission, you should replace the clutch with one that matches what you have.

Flywheel ring gear? Is the flywheel in otherwise good condition?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150
Welcome to FTE.

I moved you here as an F700 will be a different swap than a pickup of the same vintage.

As OEM, your truck would not have a 360 FE. It might have a 361 FT, which is the same basic design but which differs in mounting, and a host of other details.

What's in your truck now?

If you have a 361 with a manual transmission, you should replace the clutch with one that matches what you have.

Flywheel ring gear? Is the flywheel in otherwise good condition?
sorry for th e confusion.... I am not a Ford guy so please bear with.... it would likely be a 361... no side mounts.... engine is supported at front and bell housing .
The 2 engines are identical and I now know 361.... tag indicates a Clark 5spd.... I already reversed the ring gear.... flywheel looks new resurface.... clutch , pp , and release bearing look new.
thnks for quick reply

 
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It ought to be a pretty much bolt in, maybe swap some stuff over from the old engine.

You posted the warranty tag, so, for no extra charge:

F70 = F700 gas

E = 361 2V OR 4V XD FT gas V8

V = Kentucky Truck Plant

B60400 = 1976 numerical series, February 1976 production

194 = 194 inch wheelbase

MC
M = Wimbledon White
C = Special White (white on white two tone?)

F703 = F700 gas, 23,000 lbs GVWR

4A8
4A = Black Vinyl
8 = Standard Cab

2 = Clark model 282V five speed direct transmission

E3?
E3 = Eaton model 16244 two speed rear axle, 17,500 lbs capacity, 6.50 / 9.04 ratios
? Could it be: M = Ford front axle, 7,000 lbs capacity, with power steering.

23000 = 23,000 lbs GVWR

58 = Twin Cities District Sales Office

No special order.














 
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Originally Posted by Siscoken
I already reversed the ring gear.
Does that work? Fords I've worked with all have one side's teeth chamfered so the starter pinion has a chance at engaging. Fords of this era with inertial pinion gear engagement aren't as forgiving as ones with positive-engagement designs.




If I looked it up correctly, that comes back to

C4TZ-6384-A



Dennis Carpenter says they'll sell you one for $45+



There may be cheaper ones; this was just the first DDG hit I recognized.

 
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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150
It ought to be a pretty much bolt in, maybe swap some stuff over from the old engine.

You posted the warranty tag, so, for no extra charge:

F70 = F700 gas

E = 361 2V OR 4V XD FT gas V8

V = Kentucky Truck Plant

B60400 = 1976 numerical series, February 1976 production

194 = 194 inch wheelbase

MC
M = Wimbledon White
C = Special White (white on white two tone?)

F703 = F700 gas, 23,000 lbs GVWR

4A8
4A = Black Vinyl
8 = Standard Cab

2 = Clark model 282V five speed direct transmission

E3?
E3 = Eaton model 16244 two speed rear axle, 17,500 lbs capacity, 6.50 / 9.04 ratios
? Could it be: M = Ford front axle, 7,000 lbs capacity, with power steering.

23000 = 23,000 lbs GVWR

58 = Twin Cities District Sales Office

No special order.
Thanks for the bonus decode
 
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Old Jul 30, 2024 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by asavage
Does that work? Fords I've worked with all have one side's teeth chamfered so the starter pinion has a chance at engaging. Fords of this era with inertial pinion gear engagement aren't as forgiving as ones with positive-engagement designs.




If I looked it up correctly, that comes back to

C4TZ-6384-A



Dennis Carpenter says they'll sell you one for $45+



There may be cheaper ones; this was just the first DDG hit I recognized.
looking at the gear that I reversed ... the teeth are square cut on both sides... but likely not the original ... I would like to be sure I have the correct one in place before engine install.
thanks for the input
 

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I've never seen an FT ring gear, but other Fords I've replaced the ring gears on (I'm thinking specifically of one on a '84 6.9l w/C6 with replaceable ring gear, and an old Falcon with 170cu Six) had chamfering on one side but not the other.

I'm specifically recalling that 6.9 because I put it on backwards the first time, and had to pull it off and re-mount it [smh]. Around 2004. I think it was an Anchor brand ring gear, that time.
 
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Would like to thank all who offered assistance..... engine swap is done with conversion to duraspark ign. Runs nice but don't believe ignition timing marks .... way retarded for marks to line up.... Will have check procedure... or just set by ear.
 
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