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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 11:29 AM
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I think you figured it out or have a lead on what to eliminate next. Where exactly is your fuel lab regulator mounted also I am assuming the main pump is on your frame rail?

I am also curious, do you have the stator in place that helps direct air up into the engine compartment (supposedly)?

Not sure about the stator, but engine bay picture attached and pics of the fuel pressure regulator location and metal feed lines and Airdog is located on frame rail under drivers seat.

Relocating the fuel regulator will be a bit of work so I'm going to try insulating the metal lines first and if i could raise the back of the hood an inch or so like an old hot rod it would drastically increase air flow over the engine I would think.

First off I think I need to install an electronic temp gauge and mount the sensor directly on the pressure regulator and put the gauge in cab of course then i can get a reading under current setup then if i can lift the back of the hood an inch and see if the temp of the regulator goes down at all.

If that works then I can just buy a air ram cowl hood or whatever they're called or figure out a way to cool engine bay at highway speeds.




 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 12:17 PM
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Shield the lines for now and see what happens.

Once you get home, relocate the regulator off the engine, as I mentioned mine is off the left side of the degas bottle (looking from the driver's seat) and I made my hoses and wrapped them in heat insulator sleeves routing them away from heat.

I can honestly say I never thought twice about this issue, but now you've piqued my curiosity. I have plans to redo my lines again with SS wrapped PTFE tubing with SS fittings when I install my BD up pipes that have been sitting in the rafters for a few years.

Keep us posted and good luck
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
Shield the lines for now and see what happens.

Once you get home, relocate the regulator off the engine, as I mentioned mine is off the left side of the degas bottle (looking from the driver's seat) and I made my hoses and wrapped them in heat insulator sleeves routing them away from heat.

I can honestly say I never thought twice about this issue, but now you've piqued my curiosity. I have plans to redo my lines again with SS wrapped PTFE tubing with SS fittings when I install my BD up pipes that have been sitting in the rafters for a few years.

Keep us posted and good luck
Can you post a pic of your pressure regulator please
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 12:47 PM
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Pretty basic three line RR. Two off the back of the heads and one return to the main fuel OEM line. My ADII is set to full flow and the RR regulates the pressure at 62 psi.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 12:51 PM
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Could the blue wire mod be easily done on the road with limited stuff? I have not done it but could it help with cooling in the meantime?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by joe blow

Pretty basic three line RR. Two off the back of the heads and one return to the main fuel OEM line. My ADII is set to full flow and the RR regulates the pressure at 62 psi.

Yeah that's where I'm going to reroute mine to and funny my AD2 is wide open as well and regulator set to 62psi as well lol. Thanks for the picture brother 👍
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Brotherbillstruck
Could the blue wire mod be easily done on the road with limited stuff? I have not done it but could it help with cooling in the meantime?

I don't think that will help cool the engine bay so for now I'll just forgo using the AC till i get home and get this figured out once and for all. Props for the isea though my friend 👍
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wpg_250
Yeah that's where I'm going to reroute mine to and funny my AD2 is wide open as well and regulator set to 62psi as well lol. Thanks for the picture brother 👍

Try to wrap every hose/line after re-routed in this:
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I am redoing mine soon and already have the sleeve for it. It will add a bit of shielding IMO.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
Shield the lines for now and see what happens.

Once you get home, relocate the regulator off the engine, as I mentioned mine is off the left side of the degas bottle (looking from the driver's seat) and I made my hoses and wrapped them in heat insulator sleeves routing them away from heat.

I can honestly say I never thought twice about this issue, but now you've piqued my curiosity. I have plans to redo my lines again with SS wrapped PTFE tubing with SS fittings when I install my BD up pipes that have been sitting in the rafters for a few years.

Keep us posted and good luck
Also If possible I'd prefer to use plastic lines right from the lift pump and currently is plastic then connected to metal lines up to the engine bay then metal mesh tubing of some kind.

Relocating the regulator off to the side like yours is seems like it's going to be a PITA, but i want/need to do it so have to do some research first to get a better idea how to do and not F up lol.

Mind you I've ran the truck through 2 hot summers already with zero issues so perhaps the regulator is just old and worn out and just needs to be replaced? 🤔
 
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 01:09 PM
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That is a strong possibility.

You may want to rebuild the regulator or start fresh with a new one. Since the system would be opened up.

Redoing the lines (if desired) isn't too expensive and fairly easy to do. The hard part is sourcing it all to make it work together. If you do remake lines you can buy SS components with braided PTFE for nice results.

At a minimum I'd wrap all lines in heat shield of some type.

Good Luck
 
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
That is a strong possibility.

You may want to rebuild the regulator or start fresh with a new one. Since the system would be opened up.

Redoing the lines (if desired) isn't too expensive and fairly easy to do. The hard part is sourcing it all to make it work together. If you do remake lines you can buy SS components with braided PTFE for nice results.

At a minimum I'd wrap all lines in heat shield of some type.

Good Luck
Yeah I think I'll start off by replacing the regulator and insulating the fuel lines and go from there. I can't believe it never occurred to me it could just be a worn out regulator lol 🤪

As for rebuilding it I've no idea where to get the proper parts for it so I'll just go new i guess.

Thanks brother 👍
 
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 03:43 PM
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You're welcome. Good Luck with it.

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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 04:33 PM
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One thing that REALLY helps is to put a fuel cooler in the return line back to the fuel tank. I used an add on transmission cooler about 8x12 and mounted it in front of the radiator. It also benefits the fuel pump. If you're in a really cold climate you can plumb in a bypass to help with gelling in the winter.

WPG--yes, you have that stupid a** fan stator. Do yourself a favor and get rid of it. Your heart and blood pressure will thank you for it later.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
One thing that REALLY helps is to put a fuel cooler in the return line back to the fuel tank. I used an add on transmission cooler about 8x12 and mounted it in front of the radiator. It also benefits the fuel pump. If you're in a really cold climate you can plumb in a bypass to help with gelling in the winter.

WPG--yes, you have that stupid a** fan stator. Do yourself a favor and get rid of it. Your heart and blood pressure will thank you for it later.
Yeah I thought about doing a rad type cooler for the fuel actually so most likely do that when i redo all the fuel lines.

Thanks brother 👍
 
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Old Jul 29, 2024 | 09:47 PM
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Whatever you do, make sure the fuel lines in back don't touch the up-pipes or that fancy heat shield will wear through at the contact points. Happened to my coolant bypass line and I ended up with a coolant leak.
 
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