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Old Jul 19, 2024 | 08:01 PM
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Butyl-ful work

Camping trip is winding down, and project #1 upon return is going to be re-sealing the top of the windshield. I can see rust creeping out from under the trim piece, and I get a decent drip off the passenger side a-pillar handle in heavy rain / car washes. I'm assuming that the long one-piece trim that goes across the top and down to the hood will need to be destroyed to get it off, should I even try to be careful with it? Once I can see down into the channel I'll have a better idea what I'm dealing with, and hopefully it doesn't turn into a headliner / windshield removal. I just started noticing the drip, and with the a-pillar interior piece off, I see no evidence of long-term leakage, so I am hoping that maybe I can grind out the rust and clean up the channel enough that some butyl tape will do the trick. Where is the best place to source the windshield trim piece, and any tips from those who have done this before?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 07:03 AM
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check windshield place first

Hi, I would go to a windshield place and get an estimate from them first so you have a starting point so to speak. They could replace the gasket and seal it at same time without having to replace the windshield itself. Just a suggestion.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 09:23 AM
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my glass shop guy, says you can't reuse the existing windshield to fix leaks.
he is the Owner of his company, and had to come back to fix a leak in a brand new windshield where one of his workers did a sloppy install.

he brought out a new glass, and told me, once that butyl rubber has dried, you can't get it off the glass and reuse the glass, it will leak, and won't fit snug.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 09:40 AM
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Huh. Good to know. Guess I will do some leg work before ripping into it.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by John in OkieLand
my glass shop guy, says you can't reuse the existing windshield to fix leaks.
he is the Owner of his company, and had to come back to fix a leak in a brand new windshield where one of his workers did a sloppy install.

he brought out a new glass, and told me, once that butyl rubber has dried, you can't get it off the glass and reuse the glass, it will leak, and won't fit snug.
OK, good to know. I have a 2011 BMW that had started to leak around the windshield. It has a different gasket system I guess, maybe two parts. Anyway, the windshield guy was able to replace the outer part without removing the windshield or replacing it. I bought my 02 Excursion with a cracked windshield so it had to be replaced along with the gasket. Less than two months, got a small rock hit but no cracks. Also, the grill holes are much too big and I have had to replace the AC radiator like thing in front of the radiator twice. I put a grill guard on the front (cheap stick on), looks OK and no more rock hits there.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2024 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002Limited
Camping trip is winding down, and project #1 upon return is going to be re-sealing the top of the windshield. I can see rust creeping out from under the trim piece, and I get a decent drip off the passenger side a-pillar handle in heavy rain / car washes. I'm assuming that the long one-piece trim that goes across the top and down to the hood will need to be destroyed to get it off, should I even try to be careful with it? Once I can see down into the channel I'll have a better idea what I'm dealing with, and hopefully it doesn't turn into a headliner / windshield removal. I just started noticing the drip, and with the a-pillar interior piece off, I see no evidence of long-term leakage, so I am hoping that maybe I can grind out the rust and clean up the channel enough that some butyl tape will do the trick. Where is the best place to source the windshield trim piece, and any tips from those who have done this before?
The molding comes attached on new windshields. The urethane usually will be holding the molding on, wrapping the edge of the glass as well as sealing windshield. If you had a new molding, it would be very difficult to get it back on the windshield without removing it all. If you have rust causing leaks, its probably is in deep enough and under the urethane that your windshield needs to be removed to fix the rust properly. Sealing it under the molding might work temporarily but the rust will get worse and eventually cause leaks again. Most glass shop don't seal rusted pinch-welds because there is no guarantee and is a safety liability. I recommend our customers to have a auto body shop take care of it and have the glass removed and replaced there. Unless you can do it yourself of course.
 
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