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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rna352
Flagpoles in yards are okay then, but what are your thoughts on flag stickers on trucks? Flag tattoos? Flag bikinis on girls? Burning the flag in protest?
Personally I am against flag bikinis and they should all (well most ) be removed immediately.


To me, a flag belongs on a pole or a patch sewn to a military uniform. Anything else is just capitalism and not at it's finest.

That is just my opinion and I've caught *****e for it before so why not on this topic.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 11:21 AM
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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I display two flags on my reloading bench. Mine on the left and my father’s on the right. I don’t fly anything off of my vehicles. A large flag flying on a vehicle has become synonymous with being a Trump supporter. I’m mostly in SoCal and I see them everyday but I have yet to see one flying on a vehicle with a Biden/Harris sticker on it. I suppose the flag is used for various reasons but it means something different for me and I don’t use it as a political statement for one group of Americans against another.

 
Old Jul 21, 2024 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasJackKin
I like it! Have you ever noticed when you see someone flying a flag, you pretty much know who they're voting for?
Which is sad, the flag should not be associated with a political Party.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Montesa
Which is sad, the flag should not be associated with a political Party.
The same is happening here in Canada... A very savvy thing to do tho, makes the statement that much more "powerful" as there will be many flags around that have nothing to do with this recent trend, thus expotentionally increasing the statements power that it doesn't actually have...
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:29 PM
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Nice grass. How do you keep it so perfect?

 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Peddler
You do you I guess, but I don’t believe this is a respectable way to fly the stars/stripes, nor is it within the code of conduct for the US flag. Maybe in a parade or a show, but not as standard MO.
There's nothing in the code about a limiting it to a parade or show. There is, however, this:

United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1 §7b. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
So it's acknowledged it's okay to display on a vehicle.

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Personally I am against flag bikinis and they should all (well most ) be removed immediately.

 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Phillbo
Personally I am against flag bikinis and they should all (well most ) be removed immediately.
I see what you did there!


Originally Posted by Phillbo
To me, a flag belongs on a pole or a patch sewn to a military uniform. Anything else is just capitalism and not at it's finest..

@The Peddler mentioned the flag code, which deepens the discussion dimensions of this topic.

Originally Posted by Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, § 8. Respect For Flag
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America;

(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.

Flag bikinis, flag button down shirts, flag T-shirts, flag ties, flag belt buckles, flag vests, flag pants, flag jackets... all wearing apparel... clearly contravenes the US Flag Code as quoted above, indicating a lack of respect for the flag.

The wearers of flag apparel most likely intend to display pride and patriotism, not disrespect.

While the US Flag Code makes an exception for flags on military uniforms... the beginning of the Summer Olympic Games this month is timely to raise another red "flag" of common contraventions of the US Flag Code...


Originally Posted by Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, § 8. Respect For Flag

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.

So not only are the US Teams in potential violation of the flag code... the patriotic costumes that people wear at conventions, like the recent convention this past week in WI, can also be construed as violative of the US Flag Code and thus disrespectful of the flag.

Yet it is reasonable to believe that neither the US Teams in this summer's Olympics, nor the ticket holding attendees of either of two large national conventions this year, intend to be disrespectful, and in fact some would passionately argue that they are more supportive of the US Flag in mind body and spirit than any "approved" flag pole upon which the flag may be "properly" permitted to fly.

Getting back to flying the flag on the Super Duty, the US Flag Code offers this guidance:

Originally Posted by Title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, § 7. Position and Manner of Display

(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle... When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

If the flag pole in the OP's truck is firmly affixed to the chassis, and the flag itself "should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise", then it could be argued that the OP's display of the flag is more in keeping with the US Flag Code than the flag decal on my tailgate.





@SARDiverDan Thank you, and thank your father, for your service. You keep a tidy ship in your garage, even in retirement.




 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyct
Nice grass. How do you keep it so perfect?
Thanks to me far from perfect, when I had the grass installed (zeon zoysia) they did not level yard. I bought a reel mower and kept it at 1/2”. But kept getting gouges due to the unevenness. So I bought a rotary Hrx Honda mower and have to mow it ar 2” to keep from putting donuts in it.

This early spring, gonna scalp it and spread golf sand to level it more and get back to a golf fairway look.

But thank you again, oh fertilize and mow at least twice a week.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyct
+1 Agree completely. I am a Disabled Vietnam veteran I am proud of my country but flying a flag on a truck like that in my opinion is not appropriate. It's just a polarizing political statement. .
The OP displaying the flag doesn’t make me mad. He should retire it and get one that’s not ripped, but he’s displaying it with pride.

and if it makes you upset then consider yourself part of the problem with this world today.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
The OP displaying the flag doesn’t make me mad. He should retire it and get one that’s not ripped, but he’s displaying it with pride.

and if it makes you upset then consider yourself part of the problem with this world today.
I agree that the flag should be retired and sent to DAV or Boy Scouts for proper disposal.

People see a big flag flying on a truck during national holidays as patriotic, but daily display like this most people not see as being patriotic but see it as being committed to only one political party that thinks everyone else is not patriotic. Patriots come in all political persuasions. I say this as a registered Republican who served my country proudly when called upon.

I put a small Flag decal on my RV and have had them many of my other vehicles in the past. Recently I am reluctant to put a flag decal on my truck because it has become a political symbol, not a patriotic symbol.

I flew a flag with pride on my Side by Side this year in the local 4th of July community parade as I do every year. But after the parade I took it down.

This a picture taken of my truck back window today. I believe it identifies me as being a proud patriot but not a partisan patriot.




 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyct
I agree that the flag should be retired and sent to DAV or Boy Scouts for proper disposal.

People see a big flag flying on a truck during national holidays as patriotic, but daily display like this most people not see as being patriotic but see it as being committed to only one political party that thinks everyone else is not patriotic. Patriots come in all political persuasions. I say this as a registered Republican who served my country proudly when called upon.

I put a small Flag decal on my RV and have had them many of my other vehicles in the past. Recently I am reluctant to put a flag decal on my truck because it has become a political symbol, not a patriotic symbol.

I flew a flag with pride on my Side by Side this year in the local 4th of July community parade as I do every year. But after the parade I took it down.

This a picture taken of my truck back window today. I believe it identifies me as being a proud patriot but not a partisan patriot.

Serving in the Air Force also doesn’t make you right about everything.

you see the thing I see is that I see nothing wrong with him flying a flag on his truck 365 days per year if he’s adhering to some basic rules about flying that flag.

and as I said, I think anyone proud of this country is going to see it and appreciate it.

the only people who will have a problem with the flag are those who are the problem today. If that flag strikes someone as anything but pride and love for the country then it only says something about them at the end of the day.



damn the media has really done it’s job at this point to have made the flag a negative thing.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 02:07 PM
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RE a couple earlier points: I've always thought that the flag code applied to actual flags. A bumper sticker, T-shirt, photo or printed material with a flag image on it is not a flag.

Making a shirt out of a flag? No. Making/printing a shirt with an image of a flag on the front? OK. It should be clear that the shirt is not made from any part of a flag.

IMO, this is similar to printing your own paper currency. US code prohibits us from printing worthless paper money (only the govt (dept of treasury) can do that!). But if you print your own version of US paper money that is 2X normal size with Ronald Reagan's image front and center, etc, that is OK because it is clear to any observer that this is not "real" US currency.

RE another comment: Yeah, there are some blue team members that respect and fly the flag. That said, the recent trend to disrespect and remove patriotic symbols, anthems, pledges, etc from our public spaces are 99.9% from team blue.


 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
the only people who will have a problem with the flag are those who are the problem today.
Just because you posted this doesn’t make your opinion right. 👊

Unfortunately, in this polarized and divided political environment many people could argue the opposite.

In the famous words of Rodney king.
“ I don’t see how you can grow as a world without getting along with people.. So many people is hating out there and it’s not making a difference..
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by srkr

But thank you again, oh fertilize and mow at least twice a week.
That is a work of art but I'm not sure I could convince the wife to mow twice a week. I'm lucky to get once a week out of her when it's 116*..... I think she is lazy
 
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