Notices
2009 - 2014 F150 Discuss the 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Ford F150
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

replacing rear window gasket

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 29, 2024 | 11:58 PM
  #1  
whateg01's Avatar
whateg01
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 593
Likes: 15
From: Wichita, KS
replacing rear window gasket

I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2024 | 01:52 AM
  #2  
RLXXI's Avatar
RLXXI
Lead Driver
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 7,128
Likes: 1,945
From: Sportsman's Paradise
Originally Posted by whateg01
I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
IIRC Butyl must be heated to obtain a seal. Normally used to assemble things like headlight/taillight lenses to their corresponding housings, not sure about rear glass so I'll defer to an expert on this topic @JWA for clarification.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2024 | 03:17 PM
  #3  
whateg01's Avatar
whateg01
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 593
Likes: 15
From: Wichita, KS
I think I'm just going to use the tried and true urethane. It's never let me down before
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2024 | 04:10 PM
  #4  
Papa Tiger's Avatar
Papa Tiger
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 26,207
Likes: 4,151
From: Near Cal. Avenue
The clear Silicone for Fish Tanks would most likely work well also.
Just plug it with a Golf tee when you safe the unused stuff.
A 1 edge razor blade will cut & scrap a spot off if you goof..
I watched 2 guys put a sliding glass window in a 1993 Xtra Cab Toyota 4x4 using a length of cord to pull the rubber open.
I later cut and installed a manual skylight in it using a tube of Silicone to seal it along with its rubber mount.
 
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2024 | 07:11 PM
  #5  
whateg01's Avatar
whateg01
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 593
Likes: 15
From: Wichita, KS
I stopped at O'Reilly's today and picked up a tube of urethane and the urethane primer. Pulled the window out with the help of my daughter and her boyfriend and got it cleaned up and reinstalled. I'm pretty sure that box of butyl ribbon sealer thing is old or something. The stuff that was on the window reminded me of what butyl rubber is normally like. I have used it for reattaching vapor barriers behind door panels and it's sticky and gets on everything. That's what was on the window already. The stuff in that box on the roll was not that at all. So I'm glad I picked up the urethane today. I cut the end of the tip so that it formed kind of a wall on the window frame. That's what I recall Safelite doing when they replaced the back window on my cadillac. It makes sure that there's no low spots. Anyway, what the help of those two it was a breeze. A very lengthy breeze, but it's all done now. I'll give it a while to dry or cure and then check it with the hose.
 
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 06:31 AM
  #6  
Kk5280's Avatar
Kk5280
Trailering
Joined: Jul 2024
Posts: 15
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by whateg01
I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
The butyl is what will seal the rear glass if placed properly on the window before re-installing. Along with the bolts pulling the seal closed window against the cab. Recommend using 5/16" non foam core butyl. Getting the interior out of the way of the 9mm nuts is really the only hard part, then unbolting the motor and cable assembly if equipped with power slider. Unbolt it and push it all out evenly. No heating or primers are necessary, just the tacky butyl.
Factory Ford installs used foam core butyl which can shrink over time and leak in the top corners. I had one myself that leaked and resealed many of these.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2024 | 12:07 AM
  #7  
whateg01's Avatar
whateg01
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 593
Likes: 15
From: Wichita, KS
Originally Posted by Kk5280
The butyl is what will seal the rear glass if placed properly on the window before re-installing. Along with the bolts pulling the seal closed window against the cab. Recommend using 5/16" non foam core butyl. Getting the interior out of the way of the 9mm nuts is really the only hard part, then unbolting the motor and cable assembly if equipped with power slider. Unbolt it and push it all out evenly. No heating or primers are necessary, just the tacky butyl.
Factory Ford installs used foam core butyl which can shrink over time and leak in the top corners. I had one myself that leaked and resealed many of these.
I used urethane. I read several places and watched a few YouTube videos saying to use the foam core butyl but the stuff I received wasn't tacky at all, or was barely tacky, which was why I was asking, or at least I think I asked. Seeing that glass repair shops only use urethane and having used it before, I know it works, so that's what I did.
 
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2024 | 04:11 AM
  #8  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 21,255
Likes: 1,657
From: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Originally Posted by RLXXI
IIRC Butyl must be heated to obtain a seal. Normally used to assemble things like headlight/taillight lenses to their corresponding housings, not sure about rear glass so I'll defer to an expert on this topic @JWA for clarification.
Not true but thanks for the referral anyway!

Originally Posted by Papa Tiger
The clear Silicone for Fish Tanks would most likely work well also.
Just plug it with a Golf tee when you safe the unused stuff.
A 1 edge razor blade will cut & scrap a spot off if you goof..
I watched 2 guys put a sliding glass window in a 1993 Xtra Cab Toyota 4x4 using a length of cord to pull the rubber open.
I later cut and installed a manual skylight in it using a tube of Silicone to seal it along with its rubber mount.
A HUGE mistatement of monumental proportions!! FIsh tank sealants should be used on FISH TANKS!!

The two biggest problems here is OP doesn't state his year or vehicle type as that definitely affects what's recommended AND OP has already completed this job. We;ll leave him to post any follow ups concerning how effective his process works.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Jul 16, 2024 | 06:07 AM
  #9  
Kk5280's Avatar
Kk5280
Trailering
Joined: Jul 2024
Posts: 15
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by whateg01
I used urethane. I read several places and watched a few YouTube videos saying to use the foam core butyl but the stuff I received wasn't tacky at all, or was barely tacky, which was why I was asking, or at least I think I asked. Seeing that glass repair shops only use urethane and having used it before, I know it works, so that's what I did.
well It's your truck so if it works then thats all that matters. I've been doing glass for over 30 years and urethane will work but I don't do that in case it ever needs replaced it would be a real pain to remove because of the bolts. Some tech might use urethane if they didn't have any butyl or was less experienced on the bolted in back glass. You tube videos are not always experts.
 

Last edited by Kk5280; Jul 16, 2024 at 06:11 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2024 | 12:44 PM
  #10  
joendoodle's Avatar
joendoodle
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 112
Likes: 25
Originally Posted by whateg01
I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
Right after I bought my '09 XL (new) I wanted a sliding rear window.. none of the local glass shops had 'em... So I got one shipped to me from TASCA Ford (very reasonable) when I installed it I used the black roofing tar type of caulk all around it..( the stuff you get at Lowe's) once I tightened the window, some squeezed out so I cleaned it up and cleaned it off with mineral spirits. It is 2024 now, 15 years in service, 145K miles including hauling my loaded car hauler all over... Michigan and upstate NY winters, southern Ohio summers.. still looks good, and never a leak.

 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
artscott61
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Sep 7, 2021 07:50 AM
maverick600
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
10
May 24, 2021 07:35 AM
WNYPSDguy
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
1
Jun 4, 2020 10:37 AM
FordIowan
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Sep 2, 2012 09:19 AM
fishmanndotcom
Paint & Bodywork
6
Jul 9, 2003 02:30 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE