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I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
IIRC Butyl must be heated to obtain a seal. Normally used to assemble things like headlight/taillight lenses to their corresponding housings, not sure about rear glass so I'll defer to an expert on this topic @JWA for clarification.
The clear Silicone for Fish Tanks would most likely work well also.
Just plug it with a Golf tee when you safe the unused stuff.
A 1 edge razor blade will cut & scrap a spot off if you goof..
I watched 2 guys put a sliding glass window in a 1993 Xtra Cab Toyota 4x4 using a length of cord to pull the rubber open.
I later cut and installed a manual skylight in it using a tube of Silicone to seal it along with its rubber mount.
I stopped at O'Reilly's today and picked up a tube of urethane and the urethane primer. Pulled the window out with the help of my daughter and her boyfriend and got it cleaned up and reinstalled. I'm pretty sure that box of butyl ribbon sealer thing is old or something. The stuff that was on the window reminded me of what butyl rubber is normally like. I have used it for reattaching vapor barriers behind door panels and it's sticky and gets on everything. That's what was on the window already. The stuff in that box on the roll was not that at all. So I'm glad I picked up the urethane today. I cut the end of the tip so that it formed kind of a wall on the window frame. That's what I recall Safelite doing when they replaced the back window on my cadillac. It makes sure that there's no low spots. Anyway, what the help of those two it was a breeze. A very lengthy breeze, but it's all done now. I'll give it a while to dry or cure and then check it with the hose.
I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
The butyl is what will seal the rear glass if placed properly on the window before re-installing. Along with the bolts pulling the seal closed window against the cab. Recommend using 5/16" non foam core butyl. Getting the interior out of the way of the 9mm nuts is really the only hard part, then unbolting the motor and cable assembly if equipped with power slider. Unbolt it and push it all out evenly. No heating or primers are necessary, just the tacky butyl.
Factory Ford installs used foam core butyl which can shrink over time and leak in the top corners. I had one myself that leaked and resealed many of these.
The butyl is what will seal the rear glass if placed properly on the window before re-installing. Along with the bolts pulling the seal closed window against the cab. Recommend using 5/16" non foam core butyl. Getting the interior out of the way of the 9mm nuts is really the only hard part, then unbolting the motor and cable assembly if equipped with power slider. Unbolt it and push it all out evenly. No heating or primers are necessary, just the tacky butyl.
Factory Ford installs used foam core butyl which can shrink over time and leak in the top corners. I had one myself that leaked and resealed many of these.
I used urethane. I read several places and watched a few YouTube videos saying to use the foam core butyl but the stuff I received wasn't tacky at all, or was barely tacky, which was why I was asking, or at least I think I asked. Seeing that glass repair shops only use urethane and having used it before, I know it works, so that's what I did.
IIRC Butyl must be heated to obtain a seal. Normally used to assemble things like headlight/taillight lenses to their corresponding housings, not sure about rear glass so I'll defer to an expert on this topic @JWA for clarification.
Not true but thanks for the referral anyway!
Originally Posted by Papa Tiger
The clear Silicone for Fish Tanks would most likely work well also.
Just plug it with a Golf tee when you safe the unused stuff.
A 1 edge razor blade will cut & scrap a spot off if you goof..
I watched 2 guys put a sliding glass window in a 1993 Xtra Cab Toyota 4x4 using a length of cord to pull the rubber open.
I later cut and installed a manual skylight in it using a tube of Silicone to seal it along with its rubber mount.
A HUGE mistatement of monumental proportions!! FIsh tank sealants should be used on FISH TANKS!!
The two biggest problems here is OP doesn't state his year or vehicle type as that definitely affects what's recommended AND OP has already completed this job. We;ll leave him to post any follow ups concerning how effective his process works.
I used urethane. I read several places and watched a few YouTube videos saying to use the foam core butyl but the stuff I received wasn't tacky at all, or was barely tacky, which was why I was asking, or at least I think I asked. Seeing that glass repair shops only use urethane and having used it before, I know it works, so that's what I did.
well It's your truck so if it works then thats all that matters. I've been doing glass for over 30 years and urethane will work but I don't do that in case it ever needs replaced it would be a real pain to remove because of the bolts. Some tech might use urethane if they didn't have any butyl or was less experienced on the bolted in back glass. You tube videos are not always experts.
I ordered the 3M butyl stuff, 8611, as seen in a couple of videos. Is it supposed to be sticky? If I peel the paper it is just slightly tacky, but not very. I have not used this stuff before. I've always used the tube of urethane with a caulking gun, so I'm not sure what to expect, but I did expect it to be very sticky so as to seal up the window.
Right after I bought my '09 XL (new) I wanted a sliding rear window.. none of the local glass shops had 'em... So I got one shipped to me from TASCA Ford (very reasonable) when I installed it I used the black roofing tar type of caulk all around it..( the stuff you get at Lowe's) once I tightened the window, some squeezed out so I cleaned it up and cleaned it off with mineral spirits. It is 2024 now, 15 years in service, 145K miles including hauling my loaded car hauler all over... Michigan and upstate NY winters, southern Ohio summers.. still looks good, and never a leak.
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