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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 11:12 AM
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double steering damper effect?

I have a stock 2022 F250 4wd with a 6.2L (supercab with the 6'10" box). The steering is still stiff after 18K miles, it does clockspring back to center after a turn but not fully. Driving around town is kind of a pain in the butt, highway is just fine. Would a double steering damper improve the steering or would there be little or no difference?

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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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I wouldn't expect a dual damper setup to make steering easier. I doubt your existing single OEM unit is making it stiff.

What exactly is it that's a pain in the butt, the effort?
 
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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 11:36 AM
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In my opinion Caster angle increase would be the first thing I do.

and…I wouldn’t use castor bushings…I would use a radius arm drop kit .


the dual steering stabilizer when properly charged with nitrogen does a good job of highway steering dampening but not so much at slow speeds.

 
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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 01:19 PM
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I too wonder what the trouble is around town?

I just put a dual stabilizer kit on my f350. It's been great to further take some of the play out of the steering and tighten up the truck when driving over lower quality roads.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 02:38 PM
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Thank you for the comments! The truck does not steer with "ease" like older 3/4 tons I have driven and certainly not like my older F150s. I understand it is a different truck than a half ton but it seems the steering should have more assist.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jghaviland
I have a stock 2022 F250 4wd with a 6.2L (supercab with the 6'10" box). The steering is still stiff after 18K miles, it does clockspring back to center after a turn but not fully. Driving around town is kind of a pain in the butt, highway is just fine. Would a double steering damper improve the steering or would there be little or no difference?

Thanks for your responses.
Adding an additional steering dampener will provide more resistance (dampening) to the steering to return to center, thus worsening your complaint. Adding caster is really the only thing you can do to help this. I would rather live with it than goof with geometry. I was irritated at first that I have to actually steer the spindles back to center but I am used to it now and it doesn't bother me any more. It is what it is and it will never drive like an IFS truck or car. Unrelated, but I just wish I had more up travel before hitting the bump stops.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by -David-
Adding an additional steering dampener will provide more resistance (dampening) to the steering to return to center, thus worsening your complaint. Adding caster is really the only thing you can do to help this. I would rather live with it than goof with geometry. I was irritated at first that I have to actually steer the spindles back to center but I am used to it now and it doesn't bother me any more. It is what it is and it will never drive like an IFS truck or car. Unrelated, but I just wish I had more up travel before hitting the bump stops.
It sounds like his biggest grievance comes from the steering effort. My understanding is that additional positive caster can actually increase effort.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2024 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
It sounds like his biggest grievance comes from the steering effort. My understanding is that additional positive caster can actually increase effort.
My understanding of the complaint is the effort to return the steering to center when taking a low speed turn. Not a lot of "effort" as in force applied, just having to steer back to center, where most cars will return to center on their own not requiring the steering back to center.
 
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Originally Posted by -David-
My understanding of the complaint is the effort to return the steering to center when taking a low speed turn. Not a lot of "effort" as in force applied, just having to steer back to center, where most cars will return to center on their own not requiring the steering back to center.
Hmm, I guess we have a different understanding of what he is saying in post #5.
 
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I ordered an aftermarket steering dampener when I was getting some death wobble. 2021 F250 w/40,000 miles. I had nothing but trouble. Everything is so tight between the axle housing and drag link that when I hit a pothole, I would get a load bang. Turns out the bracket was hitting the drag link and eventually got bent and was rubbing on the drag link causing stiff steering. Once removed, went back to easy steering. Try removing your steering dampener to see if that frees it up any. Put it back if it doesn't change anything. If it's bad, order a Bilstein for replacement.
 
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