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Hi friends, It has been a while since I was in here I just got a replacement motor for my '69 F350 but......... the block does not seem to have a casting number. I do have ab assortment of other numbers and as as such ;
DIF 45 on block near oil filter
D1 TE 9925 BA ... 2 v intake manifold with XXX near rear on #8 intake flow
C7 TE-C both heads
D5TE 8505 DA Water pump
C8TE 6059 A timing cover
D6TE 9426 AB left exhaust manifold with "T" cast into it
C8TE 84?1 AB with ribs right manifold
2.48" diameter on nose of cranke
11.5" clutch with 3 finger pressure plate
184 tooth fly wheel
using a screw driver through the spark plug hole the stroke seems to be aprox. 3.33"
there is an upward protrusion from the water pump with 2 threaded holes in it. There is a simbel on the heads and intake that looks like a C with an F in it ...and it was originally orange covered in blue
no numbers on flywheel. That's all I have so far
I appreciate any and all input and thank you all for being here.
OKay so here are a few pics. IF I can get them to load. but I have an ft motor in the form of a 370 in my 79'f-600 and the valve cover sits solely on the head as with the 360 in my '70 f-100 the intake holds some of that valve cover. this new/old motor has the valve cover sits partly on intake
valve cover does partly sit on the intake
If the valve cover sits solely on the head, it's not a FE or FT engine. Looking at the oil pan in the pics, I'd be concerned about the rust under the paint. Or maybe it's just paint over crud.
okay so the 370 is NOT an ft motor? Learned something today, thanks. But what bout this motor how can I determine what it is? I am guessing that the next thing to look at is the crank numbers. I was hoping to not need to open it as the inside looks really good and the oil looked good and under the valve covers is really clean.
yes it is mostly crud ..... a mix of oil and mud under the blue paint.
The 370 is of the 429/460 engine family. Totally different engine. I think what you have there in the pics is an FT engine, 361/391. The water pump and water neck/thermostat apparatus is definitely big truck FT stuff. The bigger balancer suggest FT, as well. All of the part numbers you rattled off earlier with T in the third place says they were specific Truck parts, and 360/390's were known to have used interchangeable car parts for heads and intakes, timing covers, etc., and many would have had an A or O there.
The crank diameter is either 1 3/8" for the 330 MD, or 1 3/4" for all other FT engines. The measurement above is off the damper or pulley somehow.
Also evident is the heat crossover runner to the side of the carb. The FT is done that way, with an additional port in the center of the head. The exhaust manifold will usually have two additional bolts in the center. (But not always--seems like later ones didn't have the bolts)
Recheck the stroke. 330 & 361 were 3.5"; 389-391 were 3.78"
Only the very early, very short production 332FE had a 3.30" stroke.
370-429 motors introduced in the trucks in '79 were called "Lima" motors, never FT.
okay so the 370 is NOT an ft motor? Learned something today, thanks. But what bout this motor how can I determine what it is? I am guessing that the next thing to look at is the crank numbers. I was hoping to not need to open it as the inside looks really good and the oil looked good and under the valve covers is really clean.
yes it is mostly crud ..... a mix of oil and mud under the blue paint.
I'm guessing that what you have in the picture is an FT. Might be a 361 or 391. The FT's also have sodium cooled exhaust valves. So. if you take off the valve cover, the exhaust valve stem will be bigger in diameter than the intake.
okay found some more numbers the crank is stamped C4AE-A
and under the oil filter stand on the block I found these
using a tape measure across the skirt of one of the pistons it looked like 3-7/8 or maybe 15/16
Definitely in the FT/FE family. The FT is not desirable for a pick up truck. Lower rpm and very small valves in the heads. Also I noticed ribs on the block, which is usually an indication of a high nickel content block.
I picked this motor up to put in my 69 f-350 w/ 10' flat bed used mostly for work as I run a construction business I haul building supplies and fire wood mostly with this truck.. So in your opinion is this not a good motor for this purpose. No over the road trips just back and forth to town and around the local area. (town is an hr away)
I picked this motor up to put in my 69 f-350 w/ 10' flat bed used mostly for work as I run a construction business I haul building supplies and fire wood mostly with this truck.. So in your opinion is this not a good motor for this purpose. No over the road trips just back and forth to town and around the local area. (town is an hr away)
IMO it would work fine for what you describe. If you bought an F600 the same year or even 9 years newer, chances are it would have a 330.
You may have to fiddle with the mounts and check the clutch setup but your FE parts will swap over if need be.
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