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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 12:49 PM
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Brake light diag

The brake light on the dash is on a 1989 F150 and stays lit while parking brake is off, but only dimly. Could it be the parking brake release switch is just bad or would something else trigger the light to stay dimly lit?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ole4d
The brake light on the dash is on a 1989 F150 and stays lit while parking brake is off, but only dimly. Could it be the parking brake release switch is just bad or would something else trigger the light to stay dimly lit?
I have the same thing, and my ABS light is on too. The switch isn't bad and fluid level is good so I think I have to recenter the ABS valve via bleeding or something fun like that.
Assuming your fluid level is good, have you worked on the brakes lately?
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 01:37 PM
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I have the same thing, and my ABS light is on too. The switch isn't bad and fluid level is good so I think I have to recenter the ABS valve via bleeding or something fun like that.
Assuming your fluid level is good, have you worked on the brakes lately?
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No. The brakes haven't been touched in a while. Like you, the ABS light is on as well (I pulled that and cleaned it, but it made no difference) but that's separate from the brake light. I checked the fluid level and made sure the float in the master cylinder still floats. I can set the parking brake and the light comes on bright and if I push on the button it only goes dim and not out completely.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 01:47 PM
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The master cylinder will also turn on the red brake light.

The red brake light will cause the ABS light to turn on. There is no valve that needs to be centered. It isn’t a proportioning valve.

That does not mean that the sensor on the master cylinder isn’t triggering the light.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2024 | 03:38 PM
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If I disconnect the electrical connector on the master cylinder the light goes out. Does this indicate the MC is at fault?
 
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
The master cylinder will also turn on the red brake light.

The red brake light will cause the ABS light to turn on. There is no valve that needs to be centered. It isn’t a proportioning valve.

That does not mean that the sensor on the master cylinder isn’t triggering the light.
Hmm - that's good news. The PO had installed a new rear brake line and the light came on. I read somewhere that the system may have been bled incorrectly, causing the uncentered valve, triggering the lights. Recentering it involved re-bleeding the brakes.

Good to know - thanks!
 
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So I bought a new master cylinder and plugged it in and flipped it upside down so the float is at the top. Turned the key on and the brake light and ABS lights are still on. That tells me the master cylinder isn't the culprit. Are there grounds associated with the system that can be checked?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2024 | 07:16 PM
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Bled the brakes tonight and that didn't do a thing. Is there a way to test the abs module that's next to the gas pedal?
 
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