Odd Electrical Issues
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5th Wheeling
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If you have the solenoid stick like that then it got so hot the contacts melted together internally.
You might not have a big enough solenoid for the application.
you need to reflash the generator and ohm out the coil with a multimeter to see if it is damaged.
check to see if you also burnt out your point contacts as well.
Also you might have fried a few of the gauges by reversing polarity.
You might not have a big enough solenoid for the application.
you need to reflash the generator and ohm out the coil with a multimeter to see if it is damaged.
check to see if you also burnt out your point contacts as well.
Also you might have fried a few of the gauges by reversing polarity.
Oddly the issue seemed to only occur when the coil was wired reverse polarity. If it sticks again I will just replace it.
I had read other articles that it would not harm the gauges they would have just read in reverse, but I will check when / if I can get it running.
Is there a way to check if the generator needs to be reflashed?
Based on the other responses on the coil I was just going to swap for a 6v
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Points are not voltage or polarity sensitive.
anyways I had put a 12 volt coil on my rig when it was still 6v and it ohmed out to 1.5 ohms.
I forget if the externally resisted ones will ohm out to that or the non resistor ones.
regardless you use the 12v coil in question whichever one it is and just don't use a resistor with it and it will work great.
I forget if the externally resisted ones will ohm out to that or the non resistor ones.
regardless you use the 12v coil in question whichever one it is and just don't use a resistor with it and it will work great.
As with DieselDog409 and all members, is it to much to hope and encourage that participation be meaningful additions and not spewings of glaring inaccuracies or rehashings of conflated bits?
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The non-function of the charging system or the appearance of electrical gremalins is a big clue. Also, any servicing of the battery/charging system suggests re-polarizing as a matter of course.[/QUOTE]
That is the perfect course of action at this juncture.
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It would be just as easy to reflash it. Simply remove the Battery and Field connections on your Voltage regulator and momentarily just touch them together. When you see a small spark your generator is now flashed back to the correct polarity. Then just reconnect the wires back to your voltage regulator and if everything is good, it should be charging.
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5th Wheeling
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Quick Update, As many assumed it was a 12V coil. The new 6v was in the correct range and good news the truck wanted to start. Bad news the starter solenoid is bad since it wanted to keep spinning, so now waiting on a replacement for that.
Thanks for the help, and hope to have a full positive test in a day or so.
Thanks for the help, and hope to have a full positive test in a day or so.
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5th Wheeling
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i got a standard SS571 3 post 6v which was said to be compatible but nothing when I push the starter button.
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Fleet Mechanic
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As Brian mentioned in another post above, some of these "pull in" on a ground delivered to the center terminal and uses a one wire starter button, and others use a hot delivered to the center terminal by using a two wire starter button. But, I don't really know which years use which.
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I believe the SS 571 is a power trigger, not a ground trigger. The SS 558 should be the ground trigger you are looking for. The SS 571 can be made to work with a two wire starter button. Most parts databases do not get this deep with what works with what unfortunately.
@hooler1 , my Ford books show that thepositive power tigger solenoid happened for the 52 model year, but it's best to simply look at what your truck is equiped with.
@hooler1 , my Ford books show that the
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My pleasure. And I goofed... I said "positive trigger" when I actually meant "power trigger" to contrast with ground trigger.
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Generally the supply house will give you a 6 volt solenoid, I don't think they even have a clue if it is power triggered or ground triggered. I guess we are lucky they even have 6 volt available. The easy way to check is to use a remote starter switch and try it with your battery posts. The one that triggers it tells you which version they gave you.
