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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 03:07 PM
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1964 ride height

Does anyone have the ride height measurements of a 64 F100 SWB CC with a 292 should be. This was ordered with 1250 lb 2 stage rear leafs 5/3 and 450 4 leaf helper springs on the rear and 1100 lb springs on the front. 6 leaves. Thinking about getting new springs from Eaton Detroit as my truck sit about an inch lower on one side. Pretty sure after 60 years the springs have served their purpose and have quite a bit of sag in them.
 
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1964 Ford Truck Salesmans Data Book only lists ride heights for base equipment and then refers the reader to the 1964 Body Builders book for dimensions with other than standard equipment. So, 6-cylinder, 3 on the tree with no optional equipment, full tank of fuel, oil, water and lubricants is what the Data Book shows.

Fordification has a couple of the pages from the Body Builders book here.

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I found a couple of the NOS C1TT-5310-AN leaf springs for my 1964. That number is for the 1,100 lbs. 6 leaf front springs. When I first saw them, I couldn't believe how much arch these new springs have compared to the ones on my truck. Of course, out of the 12 total front leaves I think 4 are broken on my 1964 so I really needed something new. Would you like to see a picture of the arch on these new ones? Not installed, just sitting unweighted.

One from Dennis Carpenter NOS and one from Green Sales.

 
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 04:11 PM
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TA I figured I could count on you for some inf. Yes please post a picture!
 
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TA on the chart with tires and wheels. The 6.50 16 6 tires show a rim of 16x5k. Is the 5 the rim width? and what does the K mean? I ask because I have 4 16 inch wheels that are 5 inches wide but some have told me the pickup should have been 4.5 inches wide. I also found this chart. Looks like mine might be down about 2 to 3 inches all the way around. 66Page133.jpg (2313×2007) (fordification.info)
 
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 04:35 PM
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I might have asked you if the 16's you had were 4.5" or 5" a while back out of curiosity. Could have been either one from this information but that covers a lot of years. The K simply stands for width.



The “K” in Ford’s wheel dimensions, such as 16 x 5K, typically refers to the wheel width. It indicates the width of the wheel, specifically the distance between the inner edges of the wheel rim. The letter “K” is used to denote the width measurement.

For example, if you see a wheel size like 16 x 5K, it means that the wheel has a diameter of 16 inches and a width (or rim width) of approximately 5 inches. The “K” helps specify this critical dimension for proper tire fitment and overall wheel performance.

Keep in mind that wheel markings can vary across different manufacturers and regions, but the “K” consistently represents the wheel width in this context.
 
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So the 5 inch wheels I have may or may not be correct? But who is going to know? Right? The first chart you posted showed passenger 6.50 16"s and truck 6.50 16's. Could that be the wheel difference as in passenger tires were mounted on a 4.5 inch wheel and truck tires were mounted on a 5 inch wheel?
 
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I think earlier light trucks (and passenger cars) used the 4.5" and by 1964 you'd probably see a minimum width of 5" for a 16" Ford 5-lug truck wheel.

Here's a bigger picture showing these leaf springs end to end.



The arch in the middle from the ground up is roughly 6.5". Once the weight of the 292 is on them I'm sure they will settle quite a bit. My originals - I'm not sure if they even have any arch left to them but it'll be interesting to see once they have no weight on them.

 
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 05:04 PM
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I don't think mine had that much arch to them when I had them off. Wanna sell them?
 
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Heavy duty suspension would have come with wider wheels. I'd say your 16x5's would be considered correct. Who's to say different? While they're down there picking your wheels apart, kick 'em in the teeth.
 
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Like this page for 1964. No 4 1/2" wide wheels used it seems.

 
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Old Apr 3, 2024 | 05:07 PM
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That's what I was thinking, that the 4.5 wide wheels were phased out by the 60's, but have no documentation to back up the thinking. There it is.
 
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Originally Posted by skidoorulz
I don't think mine had that much arch to them when I had them off. Wanna sell them?
I'll trade you straight across. My leaf springs for your 16 x 5 wheels?
 
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Here's some info from the Weights section. Everything from grill guards to radios. Not sure that helps with ride height but you can see they took these things into account. 292 is on the next page and says 115 pounds (more than the 223). I'll post that when I have a chance. Service is down for me at the moment.



 
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Originally Posted by TA455HO
I'll trade you straight across. My leaf springs for your 16 x 5 wheels?
And here I thought you were a reasonable man
 
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Originally Posted by skidoorulz
And here I thought you were a reasonable man
Reasoning, not reasonable. But, close!
 
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