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Old Mar 18, 2024 | 08:46 PM
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I have a friend with a classic truck he states is a 1939 Ford F100. To my thr front end appears as a 1940. His ownership was registered in 1988 and makes no sense, states VIN P7208. Help appreciated. I tried to read along the frame by the steering box, the last few digits are are to see. It looks like possibly 2B-4530. I have attached a photo of the truck and location. Please help!


 
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Old Mar 18, 2024 | 11:24 PM
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It's definitely not a 39, they had a totally different body, hood and grille. If it's Canadian production, their serial numbers would be different from US production, so hopefully someone here has some decode info for that. As far as the stated vin of P7208, it could be as simple as someone at some point jotted down the wrong number off of one of the tags and that's what it got registered to. The serial number should be the number stamped on the frame. There's too many shadows for me to make clear sense of it.

You can also tell him that not only is it a 1940 model, it's also not an F100 as that designation didn't come about until 1953. Pickups back then were simply known as Commercial Cars. Overall, though, it looks like a pretty nice truck.







 
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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 06:14 AM
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Thank you! Ya I thought it was a 1940 also. It is for sure a Canadian truck
 
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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
It's definitely not a 39, they had a totally different body, hood and grille. If it's Canadian production, their serial numbers would be different from US production, so hopefully someone here has some decode info for that. As far as the stated vin of P7208, it could be as simple as someone at some point jotted down the wrong number off of one of the tags and that's what it got registered to. The serial number should be the number stamped on the frame. There's too many shadows for me to make clear sense of it.

You can also tell him that not only is it a 1940 model, it's also not an F100 as that designation didn't come about until 1953. Pickups back then were simply known as Commercial Cars. Overall, though, it looks like a pretty nice truck.







The serial number seems to read 2B-4530, does this make sense. Also the VIN the used seemed stamped on the firewall. I have attached a photo. Can you provide a breakdown like you did for the 1940, for the 1939 also? Thanks

 
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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 08:32 AM
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Actually it is a 1941. Serial numbers for 1941 Canadian-built commercial cars were from 2B-0001 to 2B-6361. The hood emblems and chrome are 1941 however the headlamp covers/parking lamps and hubcaps are 1940 Deluxe passenger car. Nice truck.
 
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Actually it is a 1941. Serial numbers for 1941 Canadian-built commercial cars were from 2B-0001 to 2B-6361. The hood emblems and chrome are 1941 however the headlamp covers/parking lamps and hubcaps are 1940 Deluxe passenger car. Nice truck.
Thank you, so the serial number I found is seemingly correct. Any information will helo as he hooe to correctly register the vehicle. Thank you! And photos or info will help
 
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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 10:15 AM
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The more information the better. If you can help find paint options for that year, as well as any other options decoded by the basic VIN

Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2024 | 06:21 PM
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It's definitely not a 39, they had a totally different body, hood and grille. If it's Canadian production, their serial numbers would be different from US production, so hopefully someone here has some decode info for that. As far as the stated vin of P7208, it could be as simple as someone at some point jotted down the wrong number off of one of the tags and that's what it got registered to. The serial number should be the number stamped on the frame. There's too many shadows for me to make clear sense of it.

You can also tell him that not only is it a 1940 model, it's also not an F100 as that designation didn't come about until 1953. Pickups back then were simply known as Commercial Cars. Overall, though, it looks like a pretty nice truck.







Do you by chance have the same front end diagram for a 1941?
 
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40 and 41 are the same, except for the COE which got a vertical bar grille more similar to the conventional trucks. The oval grille was a hold over from the 38-39 trucks, when the COE was introduced.
 
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Here's the 1941 identification page from the US Ford parts catalog. To show registration, model number and serial number documentation for the government, you would want the information that Stovebolt has to decode the serial number.

 
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The info is from Ford of Canada catalogues. The model no. is 11C-83. 85HP V8. There were no Canadian-built 4 or 6 cylinder engines.



 
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In 1981 I bought what I thought was a '40 Tonner, but after a while realized, nope - '41.

There were a few visual differences between '40 & '41 trucks........

In '41 four & six cylinder engines became options, so hubcaps on the lighter models that had been stamped 'V8' in '40, were changed to read just 'FORD'.

The 'V8' stamping on the hood sides of the heavier trucks was also deleted for the same reason, but a 'Ford' script badge was added to both hood side vents (same as the dash badge).

Also the vertical nose trim on the front of the hoods was narrow in '40, but a lot wider in '41. The '40 version trim had a small circle on it with the hp rating of the engine (85, 95), but in '41 this was also deleted & replaced with a vertical 'FORD' cast into the trim instead. The same width differences applied to the pickup hood trim.

And as someone said earlier, there were also the radiator grille trim differences.......'40 version was more blingy!
 
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