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S&S offers an upgrade option for the 1st gen systems it is in the drop down menu.
From the page : "For those looking to improve the debris management of their first-generation Disaster Prevention Kit, the S&S Gen2.1 Fuel Return Filter Assembly (#CP4-6.7F-BP-G2.1-RFA) can be purchased separately for $160.00 USD."
This kit "should" work on the copies of the early kit too.
It is also very easy to install even if you are not mechanically inclined. If you can change the fuel filter in the engine bay you should have no problems installing this filter.
From the page : "For those looking to improve the debris management of their first-generation Disaster Prevention Kit, the S&S Gen2.1 Fuel Return Filter Assembly (#CP4-6.7F-BP-G2.1-RFA) can be purchased separately for $160.00 USD."
This kit "should" work on the copies of the early kit too.
It is also very easy to install even if you are not mechanically inclined. If you can change the fuel filter in the engine bay you should have no problems installing this filter.
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Laughing Gas
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i would have to remove parts to get a good picture. I can barely see it now.
Laughing Gas
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Watch the install video for any version it will give you a better idea of where to look/take a pic, then let us know, if you want to add the filter yourself that is, otherwise take the info from this thread to your favorite shop/mechanic and they will take care of you.
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Laughing Gas
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Thanks everyone. I have verified that I do have the first gen fuel protection kit from S&S. That was my main goal.
I didn't want to be charged for something that wasn't installed.
Now to figure out if I want to buy and install the Gen 2 kit.
I didn't want to be charged for something that wasn't installed.
Now to figure out if I want to buy and install the Gen 2 kit.
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It would be easier and more cost effective to get the filter upgrade posted above. I would say it should be a must have, since it sounds like the gen1(without filter) might not save the fuel system in some cases.
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The main issue is the gen 1 kit doesn't prevent contaminated fuel from the bottom of the pump getting to the top end of the pump. The gen 2 kit solved that issue and would need to be installed. But I wouldn't spend the money on that, I'd install a DCR pump instead.
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If it doesn't do that what does it do? Isn't that the idea of all the DPK's, to separate the bottom end from the top?
Laughing Gas
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The early kits could back feed through the return lines, they lengthened the hose on the newer kits to prevent this.
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I take it that adding the return filter kit to the gen1 doesn't change that?
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From S&S,
If I recall correctly, the close proximity of the fuel tee external to the pump on the gen1 kit could allow contaminated fuel from a failed pump crankcase to back flow through the supply line and then be fed to the top end of the pump. I think the condition was somewhat rare and with the 25" hose in place now it's basically impossible. Probably depended on how far someone drove on a failed pump. The gen1 kit didn't have the return filter so the tank would accumulate all the filings from the return line.
The main task of both kits is to supply the CP4 case and the metering unit/plungers independently with clean, filtered fuel, and to reroute case fuel back to the tank. There are two major improvements in how the Gen2.1 kit accomplishes it. The Gen2.1 fuel supply is split off into two separate lines 25 inches from the CP4, which will eliminate the chance of contaminated case fuel back-feeding into the clean fuel supply line. The original Disaster Prevention Kit splits off within an inch of the pump, and is more susceptible to debris back-feeding, if the CP4 failure produces enough debris to clog the fuel return system. The other improvement is what happens to the debris when it exits the pump case. The Gen2.1 kit features a billet return filter head that accepts a readily-available Donaldson P550943 spin-on fuel filter which prevents debris from reaching the tank, fuel lines, and supply pump. Previously, unfortunate victims of a CP4 failure, with the good fortune of having an original Disaster Prevention Kit installed, would still need to drop the tank and deal with all of the debris created by the failed CP4.
If I recall correctly, the close proximity of the fuel tee external to the pump on the gen1 kit could allow contaminated fuel from a failed pump crankcase to back flow through the supply line and then be fed to the top end of the pump. I think the condition was somewhat rare and with the 25" hose in place now it's basically impossible. Probably depended on how far someone drove on a failed pump. The gen1 kit didn't have the return filter so the tank would accumulate all the filings from the return line.
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Laughing Gas
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Yes. It's just freeing up funds that I need for other projects in my house that would keep me from doing the upgrade.
I would really like to upgrade my fuel tank to the 60 gallon size but that would be close to $3K for a shop to buy and install. I can buy a lot of fuel for that price.
I would really like to upgrade my fuel tank to the 60 gallon size but that would be close to $3K for a shop to buy and install. I can buy a lot of fuel for that price.
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Yes. It's just freeing up funds that I need for other projects in my house that would keep me from doing the upgrade.
I would really like to upgrade my fuel tank to the 60 gallon size but that would be close to $3K for a shop to buy and install. I can buy a lot of fuel for that price.
I would really like to upgrade my fuel tank to the 60 gallon size but that would be close to $3K for a shop to buy and install. I can buy a lot of fuel for that price.