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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 08:49 AM
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Changing 390 Pistons

I have a 76 390 and am in the process of deciding how I want to rebuild it. Do I want to put the stock truck pistons back in? They are the silvolite 1139. Or do I want to go with the earlier car 2 barrel piston? They are 1116. The compression height as everybody probably knows is different between the two. The truck pistons show 8.2 compression and the car pistons show 9.7. They also offer an 1130 that shows 9.5 compression. Can I change to any of these pistons with the stock truck heads and maybe a different camshaft. Or should I leave well enough alone and go with the stock pistons. The cam I am looking at is .486 and .512 lift.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 10:12 AM
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My choice would be the 1116. Speed Pro (I think) used to make another piston with slightly smaller valve reliefs (8cc IIRC). Would be a good choice as well. Makes no sense to use the truck pistons. Sounds like an RV cam you're going with? The boost in compression plus that cam will wake that motor up quite a bit.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 10:23 AM
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Yeah just an RV cam. I was just wanting to make sure that the .100 compression height would still have valve clearance with the RV cam.
 
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Unless the block has been decked beyond anything reasonable I wouldn't worry. You can confirm with whoever will be doing the machining tho.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 10:53 AM
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Thanks for the help. I am getting everything cleaned up now to see where I am at and what all i am going to have to have done.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 12:48 PM
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OEM car pistons with the approximate CH of 1.76" showed a nominal .030 piston to deck spacing iirc. I'll look it up later. OEM pickup pistons were the same spec as thr 410 Mercury. CH was approx 1.66. See what compression the cam likes.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 07:39 PM
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Chart for the car engines. Numbers above are off a little. I think Ford used. .020 steel shim head gaskets, based on some posts from others, but I don't recall what was in the '66 390 we tore down.....

https://www.fastfairlane.com/Engines/fespechart2.html
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 07:39 PM
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I sold engine parts for years, and our customers rarely used the 1139. We were also a factory warehouse for Silvolite.
Almost everyone who ordered an engine kit opted for the 1131 flat top. It's also the stock piston for the 360. It was a lot of compression in a 390, but no one seemed to have an issue.
 
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. It's also the stock piston for the 360. It was a lot of compression in a 390, but no one seemed to have an issue.

Before Ford started making the 360 for pickups in 1968, those stock 360 pistons would have been cast with "390 4V" near the pin boss.

With today's nominal .040" thick head gaskets and piston manufacturers casting pistons with a shorter compression height for clearance after decking the block during a rebuild, 360 pistons work very well in 390 rebuilds.

 
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Originally Posted by 1pump
I sold engine parts for years, and our customers rarely used the 1139. We were also a factory warehouse for Silvolite.
Almost everyone who ordered an engine kit opted for the 1131 flat top. It's also the stock piston for the 360. It was a lot of compression in a 390, but no one seemed to have an issue.
I had read somewhere that when building the truck engine you could use the 2v car piston instead of the 4v car piston to up the compression but not up it as much as the 4v. This truck is just going to be a good cruiser or that is the plan. I don't want to run into issues starting or pinging.
 
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