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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 09:53 AM
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94 MAF/MAP scanner readings

94 f-150 5.0 with MAF. Bought an Actron scanner and in the data list it is showing a MAF reading and a MAP which is stuck at 8.1 inHg. Is this non functioning MAP reading a problem, or should I just ignore? Currently hunting surging idle when warm (suspect ECM capacitors). Thanks
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 09:56 AM
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I don't think the MAF trucks have a separate MAP sensor.. that data is calculated from MAF readings, so are your MAF readings within the expected range?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
I don't think the MAF trucks have a separate MAP sensor.. that data is calculated from MAF readings, so are your MAF readings within the expected range?
the MAF reading is changing, MAP is at 8.1 running or not. I don’t think there is an issue with the MAF reading, mostly just curious why there is a MAP reading.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 02:16 PM
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Likely the scanner isn't getting any real data for that parameter since there is no sensor for it.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Likely the scanner isn't getting any real data for that parameter since there is no sensor for it.
I am pulling this out of archives of my decreasing memory on the topic, but I thought MAF trucks still had a MAP sensor
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 04:20 PM
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Early MAF Mustangs had a MAF sensor and a BARO sensor. MAF trucks only had the MAF sensor.

A BARO sensor is a MAP sensor referenced to atmosphere not manifold vacuum.

Those folks using the A9* PCMs on a truck kept the MAP sensor, but removed the connection to the manifold. So now it became a BARO sensor. Again, factory MAF trucks do not have a MAP/BARO sensor.
 
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Originally Posted by rla2005
Early MAF Mustangs had a MAF sensor and a BARO sensor. MAF trucks only had the MAF sensor.

A BARO sensor is a MAP sensor referenced to atmosphere not manifold vacuum.

Those folks using the A9* PCMs on a truck kept the MAP sensor, but removed the connection to the manifold. So now it became a BARO sensor. Again, factory MAF trucks do not have a MAP/BARO sensor.
ahhh, and the baro sensor was the same map sensor used in the SD vehicles, but had no tube attached? Correct?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 08:34 PM
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Factory MAF calculates the manifold pressure at high throttle situations and, in my experience, periodically (NOT often) otherwise

Since it knows the air flow, the reading is unlikely to change enough ambiently to affect fueling that much I think is the reasoning for it being so casual. like you arent going from 0ft above sea level to 6000 between the time it takes to get an update from it lol,.
 
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Thanks, so on my truck it is not relevant. I think the discussion above is on a particular year(s) of mustang, correct. I hope it did not calculate my reading of 8.1 inHg as that is about 3.9psi which would be nuts.
 
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a low MAP reading on a MAF truck would tell me the MAF is not reading accurately
 
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