V-6 Mustangs
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I agree with that, but if people think that current Mustang V6 is slow and not real Mustang at all, what would you then say for 74-86 Mustangs? Heck, during those time even mighty Corvette with 350 only had 190 hp.
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Well, those were the days of the "Energy Crisis" and smog legislation which the automakers were trying to comply with by slapping smog equipment on at the expense of power. Everybody took it in the shorts. Now, the automotive engineers have figured out how to make more power with less displacement and still comply with ever-tightening smog and CAFE requirements. Modern EFI and electronic engine controls play a big part in that.
And don't forget, the '74-'78 Mustangs wern't really a Mustang at all...they even called 'em a Mustang II. They were a stretched re-bodied Pinto, offered with the 2.3 4cylinder, the 2.6/2.8 V6 and the 302 V8.
They make great mini-stocks, though!
And don't forget, the '74-'78 Mustangs wern't really a Mustang at all...they even called 'em a Mustang II. They were a stretched re-bodied Pinto, offered with the 2.3 4cylinder, the 2.6/2.8 V6 and the 302 V8.
They make great mini-stocks, though!
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Originally Posted by TigerDan
Well, those were the days of the "Energy Crisis" and smog legislation which the automakers were trying to comply with by slapping smog equipment on at the expense of power. Everybody took it in the shorts. Now, the automotive engineers have figured out how to make more power with less displacement and still comply with ever-tightening smog and CAFE requirements. Modern EFI and electronic engine controls play a big part in that.
And don't forget, the '74-'78 Mustangs wern't really a Mustang at all...they even called 'em a Mustang II. They were a stretched re-bodied Pinto, offered with the 2.3 4cylinder, the 2.6/2.8 V6 and the 302 V8.
They make great mini-stocks, though!
And don't forget, the '74-'78 Mustangs wern't really a Mustang at all...they even called 'em a Mustang II. They were a stretched re-bodied Pinto, offered with the 2.3 4cylinder, the 2.6/2.8 V6 and the 302 V8.
They make great mini-stocks, though!
However, Mustang must have base model for people who can't afford V8s. That's why Mustang have been so succesful because they have car for all price ranges. Camaro and Firebird didn't had that - they failed. GTO doesn't have that at all now - it failed, not completely, but it will.
Would you rather have only Mustang Cobra with $33,000 sticker price and sales would be around 5,000 units?
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Of course not, there need to be a variety of models offered in every line up. And with today's V6's putting out the kind of power they do, they can be a contender. But to me, a V6 Mustang doesn't really fit my ideal of a performance car. The sound and feel just isn't right...but I'm gettin' up in years and I'm kinda old-school when it comes to that. I just flat like V8s in Mustangs, it's sort of the Mustang Heritage...even though the very first ones were offered with a 6, as was the very first 'Vette.
I just feel that they could have offered the Mustang with different versions of the V8 in later years, different tune levels as well as different trim levels. I can't argue with the marketing success of the car however. But all that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions...
I just feel that they could have offered the Mustang with different versions of the V8 in later years, different tune levels as well as different trim levels. I can't argue with the marketing success of the car however. But all that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions...
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There will be different versions of V8 of current Mustang in the future. Shelby Cobra GT500 is coming out in 2007, new style of V6 with fog lights is coming out next year, I even heard stories about California Special (those were offered only in 1968). There should be at least one more version of V8, probably Mach 1 or Boss.
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See there, totally different tastes. That's what makes it all so interesting. You're not wrong, I'm not wrong, we just don't agree on some things. I just get tired of the guys who feel that their opinion is the only right one, and everybody else better agree with them or shut up about it. To heck with them!
As far as the vintage Mustangs go, my favorite year is the '67. The fastback and convertible especially. A guy I work with doesn't like the fastbacks...oh well, to each his own. I like the '05 because they have retro styling that has a lot in common with the '67 fastback as well as having a nice updated look. What is it you don't like about 'em?
As far as the vintage Mustangs go, my favorite year is the '67. The fastback and convertible especially. A guy I work with doesn't like the fastbacks...oh well, to each his own. I like the '05 because they have retro styling that has a lot in common with the '67 fastback as well as having a nice updated look. What is it you don't like about 'em?
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Originally Posted by TigerDan
I like the '05 because they have retro styling that has a lot in common with the '67 fastback as well as having a nice updated look. What is it you don't like about 'em?
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They went from really awesome concept to just average looking car.
I do like what Ford has done with the 05s, but I don't have the feeling I need to go buy one. But then again, I'm happy with what I own.
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Yeah, the concept cars are almost always nicer than the production vehicle turns out to be. But there's always that little extra styling flare in a concept vehicle that's a bit too much for Average Joe Public to stomach, so they wind up toning it down a bit for production (not to mention the higher production costs of building a car as conceived and displayed). But I think they still stayed fairly close to the concept, although it's not quite as aggressive looking. They wanted Susie Public to buy it too...!
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Gotta say the '05 concept looked much, much closer to the production model than the original Mustang concept car did in the early '60s. About the only thing on the concept that made it to production was the side scoops behind the doors.
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Woah...I was expecting to see a year range of 74-86......why are you including 71-73 and 87-04? The 87-04 mustangs and the 64-1/4-73 mustangs were pretty good in most eyes. Please inform us of your reasoning...