I need some full part numbers again from all you good numbers people. This is for the Motorcraft 2100 carburetor for 1966 Ford F250 with 352, manual choke. We don't need a full carburetor rebuild kit. I don't need the number for the rebuild kit, because I have that. What I need is the full part number for 9564 in the diagram, the kit that has the screen, seat, needle, & clip. I also need the full part number for 9569, the anti-splash washer. I saw on Ebay they have NOS OEM kits with 9564 & 9569 combined into one kit, so I could use the full part number for that too. Thanks to anyone that can give me these numbers, I really need your help, and knowledge!

 

Does this help?
https://www.carburetor-parts.com/2150-needle-seat

 

That kit was given various part numbers over the years as Ford superseded and obsoleted older numbers - but the one for a 1966 would be.

C2AZ-9564-D - VALVE KIT - FUEL INLET

 

TA455HO, Thanks for the info. The kit C2AZ-9564-D doesn't contain the little ant-splash brass washer 9569, or the little screened filter. How do you find those parts? I see there are no aftermarket parts for the anti-splash 9569 brass washer or that little screened filter. I see some kits that are NOS OEM on Ebay contain them, but not all. The reason I'm asking this is because we have a real nightmare going on with this carburetor we ordered online from AutoZone. The carburetor was rebuilt from United Remanufacturing Co., Inc., Schiller Park, IL, 60176. The carb number was 7-7215, a Motorcraft 2100 carb for an auto trans & manual choke. I checked this company out real good before I ordered this carb. I found only good reviews about them. They have been in business since 1948, and they are family owned, by the same family since 1948. This carb has a 1 year warranty. It got shipped to us on 10/18/2023. My husband installed it on the truck with new, fuel pump, fuel filter, & fuel line. It ran good except for a slight hesitation. This is not a truck we drive that much, it's kind of our baby. A couple days before Christmas 2023, my husband was taking it out for a drive. Only 50 miles were on the truck since the carb got installed. He stopped at a neighbor, truck started running rough, and quit. He opened hood took off air cleaner, gas was all over intake manifold. Seeing it had 1 year warranty, we didn't mess with it, or take the air horn off. We sent it back to UREMCO in IL. They supposedly took it apart, tested it, adjusted a screw, said it tested good, and sent it back to us. After husband installed it, now the truck would not stay running, kept quitting. Bought fuel pump pressure tester, psi, flow, all tested good. New PCV valve, everything checks good. Yesterday husband takes off air horn, Oh surprise, parts are missing. The 9569 brass anti-splash washer, & the clip that attaches to the needle, that goes over the float tang, were missing. So needle was just sitting in the seat doing nothing. We did not take it any further apart, not sure, but it doesn't look like anything else is missing. And the NOS OEM base mounting gaskets we ordered have been floating around St. Louis USPS DC's for 4 days. So we have no ideal where they are. So that's our dilemma.

 

B7A-9569-A - GASKET - FLOAT VALVE SEAT

I'm not sure where you got the term anti-splash washer but maybe you can share that detail. Ford didn't seem to use that term for 9569 in 1966. In my picture it's the small black gasket. I believe in Mikes rebuild kit it's the single black gasket.

Perhaps you can post pictures of the washer and filter you mention? I've never seen a filter associated with the needle and seat that I can think of. I have five original Autolite 2100s on the bench all disassembled right now and I looked at them just now and couldn't tell what you meant. Two of them are the C6TF-C and one is the C5TF-Z which are both for a 1966 with 352 and MX Cruise-O-Matic. The latter number is also good for a 1965.

Remember, Motorcraft brand didn't come around until 1972 so the carburetor likely isn't one specifically made for a 1966. Just something to keep in mind. Hopefully it has the anti-stall dashpot and the kickdown lever for the automatic.

 

TA455HO, I got the term anti-splash washer for 9569 from the Ford 1966 Truck Shop Manual. It's a small brass washer with a hole in it. The clip that goes through the hole onto the needle, then clip mounts over float tang. The little brass washer sits then on top the needle. My guess why it's called that in the manual is so gas is directed downward, and flow through slots in the top of seat. If you look at diagrams I'm attaching, it shows a tiny filter screen is included in that 9564 packet. It goes in before the seat. Diagram comes from Ford Truck Shop Manual for Ford 2 V carburetor. We watched a guy take apart a 2100 carb on Youtube. When he took the clip off the float tang, you could see that little brass washer dangling on top the needle. When he took the seat out, the little filter was attached to the end of seat. All the aftermarket carb kits or parts, don't have that little brass anti-splash washer 9569, or that little filter screen. I only saw that included in NOS OEM kits on Ebay. My husband took the seat out of our carb, and there is no little filter screen either, so that is missing. Not sure if that is really needed. There is a filter on the fuel pump, and one inline filter between the tank and fuel pump. But if you have the full part number for that 9569 brass anti-splash washer and the filter screen that is supposed to be in the 9564 kit, I would be thankful. So here are diagrams I'm talking about.

 

In my picture that washer is slightly hidden under the needle seat. I didn't realize they called it an anti-splash washer, so I learned something new today. Thank you! None of my kits have the little filter either and I haven't taken apart a carb that still had it. I don't see any base number for that item at all - like 9569. And the washer being 9569 doesn't jive with the parts catalog. This is the section for the 352 2barrel and you can see 9569 is the gasket which in the YouTube video is red in his rebuild kit. Sorry I can't help you with those other parts. Ford seemingly contradicting themselves from what I can tell.

 

TA455HO, Thanks! What I think this is, is that between the parts book and the shop manual, they forgot to include parts. Because if you look at the parts breakdown in the shop manual, & that diagram I got from that Fordification website, 9569 is a little brass washer, that sits on top the needle. Like you see in the Youtube video. Because the parts diagrams aren't showing, the little red gasket that goes under the seat. I did see NOS OEM 9564 kits on Ebay that had the brass washer, and the little filter screen in them. But the posts for those kits did not state what vehicles they were for. Those posts stated you were supposed to check to see if it was for your vehicle. Seeing 9564 pertains to all kits, without the other numbers, you don't know which is for your vehicle. When you don't have a master parts catalog, that puts you at a loss. Ford doesn't offer a way to look up parts online for old vehicles. The aftermarket carb parts don't have that little brass anti-splash washer or the little filter screen. You can tell in that Youtube video that is a really old carb that guy takes apart, so it probably is a virgin carb that was never taken apart before. What I did notice in that video, when he put that needle back in the carb, he didn't put the brass washer back on top of it. I can't remember now right off if he put that little screen back in. But he did point it out in the video. Another thing we found out after you gave me the OEM part number for the gasket that goes on the phenolic spacer, is the aftermarket ones in the kits, & the ones they sent with our carb, are way not right. The aftermarket ones really don't fit right. We just got the NOS OEM ones today from a Ford dealer in Marshall, MO. The phenolic spacer has a track that air flows through. The aftermarket gaskets aren't cut out in the middle like OEM, and they have a hole in the V near the fuel ports. The OEM ones are cut out in the middle, have a hole in the tab where the pvc hose comes in, & that hole lines up with the air tracks molded into the phenolic spacer. Aftermarket ones don't line up right, and the gasket gets sucked into those air tracks which you can see when you take it off. So air flow would not be right with the aftermarket gaskets. UREMCO the carb rebuilders we got the carb from are going to send us the parts that are missing from our carb. They are sending the clip for the needle, that goes over the float tang, and the little brass anti-splash washer that mounts above the needle. The only thing we don't have is that little filter screen that goes in under the seat. We are not sure if that little filter screen is a must inside the carburetor. There are pros & cons for having it inside the carburetor. We have the fuel filter in the fuel pump. When we bought the truck, someone had already put an inline filter between the tank, fuel pump, where the rubber hose is next to the frame. That is all new. So we are not sure if that little fuel screen below the seat is really needed. It could clog all the time, and may have to be cleaned a lot. But without it your little fuel passages could get clogged more. Most other rebuild videos we saw on Youtube, don't show them putting on that brass anti-splash washer above the needle, or the filter screen below the seat. So it is a horse apiece. I think we are going to have to break down and get a master parts catalog. Seeing print ones can be upwards of $500.00, I think we'll have to get a CD copy. I see LMC truck has them for under $20.00. But thank you again for your help. I also saved a copy of the page from your parts catalog. May need your help though again in the future.

 

The CD copy of the MPC is vastly easier to use than the print copy. The page I posted is from the 1966 specific catalog. I looked in the 1964 specific catalog and it doesn't show either of those parts (washer or filter) but does show the gasket below the seat as 9569. Somewhere after that Ford goofed.

 

TA455HO, I see this diagram is for a 292. I wonder how much difference is between a carburetor for 292 and 352 engine.As far as needle and seat parts go. What is that asterisk pointing to that 9569 gasket in dashed line, in this 1964 diagram? What is the footnote on it? Before you gave me the numbers for the 9564 kit, I saw the following kits on Ebay. But at the time I didn't know the correct numbers for the kit we needed, till you gave it to me. All these kits end in B instead of D so I am assuming they might be one of the superseded numbers. All these kits have the brass anti-splash washer, but no filter screen. I swear I saw kits with the filter screen in them, but couldn't find those kits now. I even found a kit with the screen built into the seat, but I know that one is not for a 352 truck, don't know what it is for. But UREMCO is supposedly sending us the parts that are missing in our carb, including that brass anti-splash washer. I didn't feel we should have to buy the missing parts after we paid AutoZone $305.00 for the carb, & $30.00 to send it back to UREMCO, for them to check it out. UREMCO owner said they would send out missing parts today. But it looks like as the numbers got superseded on those 9564 kits, they eventually eliminated the filter screen, and the brass anti-splash washer. In the video I posted here, the guy did not put that anti-splash washer back over the needle when he put it back in the carb. Can't remember if he reinstalled the filter screen in that carb. But in other carb rebuild videos we watched, they don't put any anti-splash washer on top needle, or any filter screen below the seat. The only video I saw where there is a filter screen below the seat, is in this video. So you say CD is easier than print MPC. We have to breakdown and buy it. Here are those kits that end in B instead of D, I am assuming these kits are the ones that got superseded. You can see they all have the brass ant-splash washer. Oh, one of these kits does end in D. Note the kit with screen built into seat, I know that is not kit for 352 truck engine, not sure what it is for. So at one time the seats must have had filter screens below them. But they got eliminated.

 

Not many differences between an Autolite 2100 for a 352 and one for a 292. The 1964 catalog says it takes a C3TZ-9564-A (last one in the list in the one OSI catalog below) which was replaced by C2AZ-9564-D. The asterisk means

* ALSO SUPPLIED IN 9512 MAIN BODY ASSEMBLY

To figure out what superseded what they printed the OSI catalogs. Yet more documentation. These were the first 4 complete volumes.



B replaced by D but look at all the others. This is supplied with the lines drawn through the numbers - I didn't do that.

RB = Replaced By
MW = Mix With
NR = Not Replaced

 

I have a 1964 Ford P350 that I need new front hubs. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Front Wheels

 

TA455HO, Now I learned something new. I did not know about OSI Catalogs. You can spend a small fortune on all this literature. Do you own all these OSI & MPC catalogs? Were you a parts person at a Ford dealer? We really screwed up last year. There was a Ford dealer, Wehmeyer Ford, in Rosebud, MO, in business since the 1930s. They closed, and last year they auctioned off all the stuff that was in the dealership. Tools, machines, parts, literature, etc. We should have gone to that auction, they even had some antique vehicles. One was an old Ford panel delivery truck from the 40s, if I'm remembering right. But it was in kind of a rough state. Problem with auctions though, is people get too crazy, and drive prices too high. So a lot of times you can get it from Ebay, or antique dealer for a better price. I know the Internet Archive has the Ford MPC for 1980s trucks, but I didn't look at it. Fordification website has parts of the 64-72 Trucks MPC published online. But only up to Section 30 index. The rest of the sections say under construction. The Internet Archive has a lot of literature from manufacturers that can go back to the 1800s. Thanks for showing me all this stuff and the pics.

 

Tuno74, I don't know if TA455HO will see your post. Maybe you should message him personally by clicking on his user name, or start a new thread, so others can offer you advice, or even parts.