Looking for OBD-I scan tool device, please.
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Looking for OBD-I scan tool device, please.
All,
My '92 F250 has started showing the CEL intermittently lately, and since I've been down this road before with my F150 (jumping pins, counting numbers, checking codes, clearing codes, checking codes again....) without an OBD-I scan tool...
I'm getting tool old and cranky to count flashing lights again, so can someone please suggest to me a good OBD-I scan tool I can buy? I'm not afraid to invest in good quality tools, and I'll be driving the F250 into the ground, but I see too many OBD-I scan tools options out there so I'm looking for advice based on first-hand experience.
Thanks!
Jim
My '92 F250 has started showing the CEL intermittently lately, and since I've been down this road before with my F150 (jumping pins, counting numbers, checking codes, clearing codes, checking codes again....) without an OBD-I scan tool...
I'm getting tool old and cranky to count flashing lights again, so can someone please suggest to me a good OBD-I scan tool I can buy? I'm not afraid to invest in good quality tools, and I'll be driving the F250 into the ground, but I see too many OBD-I scan tools options out there so I'm looking for advice based on first-hand experience.
Thanks!
Jim
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https://www.amazon.com/INNOVA-3145-F...168&&sr=8-5
This is the one I was recommended when I asked about code readers
This is the one I was recommended when I asked about code readers
Looking at the info for this scanner I see it doesn't read "live data". I'm pretty sure I know what this means, and to me this seems likely it would be useful under certain circumstances, so for those of you do this for a living, is this a useful feature/function to have?
I found an OTC scanner that does OBD-II as well, plus offers the live data streaming, for about $300. I'm not afraid to pay that, but if the live data streaming isn't useful, why spend the bucks?
Anyone?
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Good info, and thank you for the recommendations!
Looking at the info for this scanner I see it doesn't read "live data". I'm pretty sure I know what this means, and to me this seems likely it would be useful under certain circumstances, so for those of you do this for a living, is this a useful feature/function to have?
I found an OTC scanner that does OBD-II as well, plus offers the live data streaming, for about $300. I'm not afraid to pay that, but if the live data streaming isn't useful, why spend the bucks?
Anyone?
Looking at the info for this scanner I see it doesn't read "live data". I'm pretty sure I know what this means, and to me this seems likely it would be useful under certain circumstances, so for those of you do this for a living, is this a useful feature/function to have?
I found an OTC scanner that does OBD-II as well, plus offers the live data streaming, for about $300. I'm not afraid to pay that, but if the live data streaming isn't useful, why spend the bucks?
Anyone?
just my $.02
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Live streaming data isn't possible in the same way we are used to with OBD2 vehicles, It requires a module that connects directly to the PCM and intercepts the internal functions of the computer or one that connects between the PCM and wiring harness...Ford service had a system like this. There was also a device that somebody developed that could show some data via the EEC TEST connector but that functionality wasn't available on all OBD1 vehicles and I haven't seen mention of it in some time so it may no longer be available. Most of these devices have long since been declared obsolete or have suffered from parts shortages and been discontinued.
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https://www.amazon.com/INNOVA-3145-F...168&&sr=8-5
This is the one I was recommended when I asked about code readers
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They still sell (Ford, Hickock, Rotunda) Star and Super Star testers on Ebay
If you were to get one of those used, you could follow the instructions for the self tests and all that verbatim from the service manual PCED
Here is mine
40 years old and still works
If you were to get one of those used, you could follow the instructions for the self tests and all that verbatim from the service manual PCED
Here is mine
40 years old and still works
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+1 on the prongs, or spade connectors on the innova tool pushing into the tool when plugging in . Mine did this as well. Like was mentioned earlier, I bought the extension cable and plugged that into the scanner. I don't remove it when I'm done with the scanner. Has been fine since doing that.
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Live streaming data isn't possible in the same way we are used to with OBD2 vehicles, It requires a module that connects directly to the PCM and intercepts the internal functions of the computer or one that connects between the PCM and wiring harness...Ford service had a system like this. There was also a device that somebody developed that could show some data via the EEC TEST connector but that functionality wasn't available on all OBD1 vehicles and I haven't seen mention of it in some time so it may no longer be available. Most of these devices have long since been declared obsolete or have suffered from parts shortages and been discontinued.
Thanks!
Jim
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There's one on eBay right now that looks pretty good, but the seller has zero feedback, which makes me hesitant to pull the trigger. There's a couple more I found, but they don't have the manuals, or at least they don;t call it out and I don't see them in the pictures or description, so this evening I think I'll order-up the Innova unit other people have mentioned, with an extension cable, and call it a day.
Thanks!
Jim
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https://www.amazon.com/INNOVA-3145-F...168&&sr=8-5
This is the one I was recommended when I asked about code readers
This is the one I was recommended when I asked about code readers
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For live data, real-time, I use ForDiag.
czech product, your eec-iv must have the hardware, and also the data+ data- pins on the test connector.
if you have the wires in the test connector your half way there.
Test connector:
OBDI – Pin# 1 – Data (-) PK/LB(pink/lightblue)
OBDI – Pin# 3 – Data (+) T/O(tan/orange)
Chip inside the eec must be 81C62.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20311758
czech product, your eec-iv must have the hardware, and also the data+ data- pins on the test connector.
if you have the wires in the test connector your half way there.
Test connector:
OBDI – Pin# 1 – Data (-) PK/LB(pink/lightblue)
OBDI – Pin# 3 – Data (+) T/O(tan/orange)
Chip inside the eec must be 81C62.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20311758
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