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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 09:52 AM
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239 running hot

I really need some advise here!!! After a couple of months with the radiator out and the generator rebuilt I finally started the truck to check if the charging was okay. Now the truck is running hot!!!!! The radiator was leaking and was sent to a radiator shop and I just mounted new hoses, clamps and petcock. I had no problems with the temperature last year. Not even in the summer. I am trying to remember if I have done something to cause this, when working with the truck but cant think of anything? I really appreciate suggestions!!!!
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 10:28 AM
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When installing the new radiator and filling the system, did you burp it and get all the air bubbles out?

You received some good advice here on that:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post21000221

Also, running the engine while finishing filling can help too.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:35 AM
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A thermostat that sticks shut will cause that too.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:36 AM
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Does it run hot while driving around, or are you just running it in the garage? Most likely thing to fail is the thermostats, which I think you replaced already? Any chance they might be in backwards?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:36 AM
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I think I got the air out but it's difficult to be 100% certain! I let the truck cool down and then started it up once again. Now i noticed a significant difference in temperature between PS and DS upper pipes/hoses? Cooler on PS. Could it be PS thermostat? Is it possible to measure resistance on both of the temperature sensors?.Thanks!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Does it run hot while driving around, or are you just running it in the garage? Most likely thing to fail is the thermostats, which I think you replaced already? Any chance they might be in backwards?
I wrote my latest reply before I saw yours!!! I did not replace the thermostats because everything was working fine except for the leak. Maybe a mistake. Engine has been without antifreeze for a couple of months now so maybe a seized thermostat.????
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:44 AM
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The thermostat sending units are not ohms/resistance based. The two terminal sending unit is strictly an overheat open circuit type. The single terminal is what actually measures the temperature for display on the gauge via the King-Sealy Distometer communication style.

Being that you have a heat differential between the sides, I'll agree with the others that you should check the thermostat on the problematic side.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:50 AM
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Yes, I will try to find new thermostats asap. Are there a lot of different ones for the 239? ( 8RT -52)
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:57 AM
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They are relatively standard footprint thermostats available in various temperature ranges (You don't need to order overseas from DC or other specialty early Ford vendors). As to which temperature to get? Opinions vary, but I run 160s in mine.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 11:58 AM
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NAPA:
THM 530060 160 deg
THM 530080 180 deg

D5PZ-8575-A (web says 192 deg ??)

Gates #5508 (180 deg) supercedes to 33008;
Robertshaw # 330 is for the 49-53 Fords and others;

Subaru thermostats, 170 deg: Balkamp brand from Napa. Part # 111. And made in USA of all places.

The Subaru thermostats may be easiest for you to source, but check they fit properly.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 12:36 PM
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Thanks a lot both of you!!! I am going to call around tomorrow and see what they got.
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 03:06 PM
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I drained the system again. My thermostat is 160 deg but the housing is in aluminium so I dont know for sure if I can use the same as for the cast iron housing. I call tomorrow for measurement and hope for the best. Diameter is 2.1" ( 53.5 mm) and height 1.5" (38 mm)
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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Was the thermostat installed with the side shown in the picture facing the outlet?

Does it fit in the recess of the outlet?

Looks like the usual thermostat. Try putting it in a kettle of water and seeing if it operates properly.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Was the thermostat installed with the side shown in the picture facing the outlet?

Does it fit in the recess of the outlet?

Looks like the usual thermostat. Try putting it in a kettle of water and seeing if it operates properly.
Yes, it was installed the right way and seams to fit in the recess. It opens in boiling water so I dont know if it opens to late or if I have another problem like water pump? I will order 2 thermostats with gaskets for the housing tomorrow and see what happens!!!
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Old Jan 11, 2024 | 04:30 PM
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If you have an infrared temperature gun, see what the temps at the outlets is when it indicates "hot". Could be the "excess heat sender" is faulty.


 
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