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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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What do you think of an ER that charges $1325.15 for 7 stitches in a knee because you don't have insur. to let them abuse and make everyone's rate's go up. Here's a list.

Lock jaw shot $52.10
Antibiotic shot$97.05
Vial Lidocain $50.60
Poviod soln $31.70
ER visit $867.00
Suture,Trays $208.45
Telfa Pad $7.95
Bandaid $10.30

You got it , one, 1, bandaid, same you can buy in 50 count paks for $2, something is wrong in this country, we need to thin the herd soon!
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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Was it a regular bandaid, or one of the Super Ultra Mega DEEE-lux gold-plated, high-performance models?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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Labor rates are high in an ER. That is what you are paying for. That is a VERY high priced service garage open 27-7 with very high priced equipment and staff.

You would pay about as much if you had to have a "cut" on your truck fender welded up. The guy handling the welder wouldn't have a degree in medicine that it took him 10+ years to get with three nurses with ~4 yrs each of high priced school also.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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Yea, but thats a bit high.
I expect to pay out the butt... I pay 100 for ER visits, WITH insurance
They are a bit over priced
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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I need to be a doctor.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Re: Doc Bills

Originally posted by Timken
What do you think of an ER that charges $1325.15 for 7 stitches in a knee because you don't have insur. to let them abuse and make everyone's rate's go up. Here's a list.

Lock jaw shot $52.10
Antibiotic shot$97.05
Vial Lidocain $50.60
Poviod soln $31.70
ER visit $867.00
Suture,Trays $208.45
Telfa Pad $7.95
Bandaid $10.30

You got it , one, 1, bandaid, same you can buy in 50 count paks for $2, something is wrong in this country, we need to thin the herd soon!
Ahhh, If we could just turn back the hands of time. Back to the good ole'days of no insurance, and a man got charged by the doc, what he could afford to pay. Of course back then, a couple of big guys would have held you down, tossed kerosene in your wound, and then had the doc on horesback sew you up, while you bit on a stick. Medical science and technology has come light years. If you had your hand cut off tomorrow, they could sew it back on , and it would work again. We all pay for that technology and it comes with a big price tag. . But, along with that we get to pay hospital administrators 150-200 k a year, er docs big bucks on and on. These prices are paid because insurance companies will pay it. Its a big money pot stirring , with a LOT of different hands dipping in to it. With the way this lawuit frenzy is going on in this country, and the docs insurance companies keep paying more and more for suits, the prices are only going to get worse, with fewer people wanting to pursue a medical career. The doctor vs patient load is already getting lopsided, because of shortage of docs in a lot of areas in the USA. I havent had heart surgery yet, but in my annual medical insurance billing, I am help paying for a lot of them in this country being performed daily, at $250,000 a case. If you had insurance with 80 % coverage your out of pocket would have been about 260 bucks. The next time you watch a NFL game think about what that guy makes a year tossing a ball, and then compare that to the price you paid to have the er doc, his staff, to cure your ills, at a hourly rate. Value out the dollar paid for the skill level, training, and hours on the job, ball player vs. er doc and staff, I think you will see we have a big indifference as to what we consider valuable to us, and what we are willing to pay for it. I agree, med coats are outrageous, my wife just got charged 2000 bucks for a er visit, thank goodness we only paid 400 out of pocket. And I hate paying insurances , 30 % of my income goes to it, but without it, one can get hit with some BIG bills, unless you go the indigent care route. good luck on the knee injury,
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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dogman, If you think you can hack it go back to school...

The doctor did not get the $1300, the hospital gets it and pays for the building, equipment, and staff, -including those security guys that keep the place safe from the druggies and weirdos.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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If you think that is high, go there with a superficial gunshot wound, to the groin..... The Bill is HUGE.

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Torque1st
Labor rates are high in an ER. That is what you are paying for. That is a VERY high priced service garage open 27-7 with very high priced equipment and staff.

You would pay about as much if you had to have a "cut" on your truck fender welded up. The guy handling the welder wouldn't have a degree in medicine that it took him 10+ years to get with three nurses with ~4 yrs each of high priced school also.
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Torque1st, I know that the doc's are the ones that went to school and all but you need to understand is that I went over to my girl friend's house and shoved my m3 bag in her hands and told her to look at my cut,( she has med. background) it was a little easier to let her look at it than me. She used a saline rinse, shaved the hair all around cleaned the cut out and I was going to have her suture it up (we both have all equip. needed) but she insisted I go to be able to get shots we didn't have on hand. The doc even said we didn't leave much for him to do.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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You still went to the ER, the Doc had to examine it, used up a lot of their time and space, and they took the responsibility for the treatment. You probably got off a few hundred bucks less because of the prep work done.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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That'll teach you to get hurt.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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Re: Doc Bills

I think the charge for the ER visit is reasonable, but, ....

Antibiotic shot$97.05
Vial Lidocain $50.60
Suture,Trays $208.45
Bandaid $10.30


You got overcharged $265 right there.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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It is not the parts, it is the labor rate...

They figure the shot required the doc to essentially diagnose the problem or figure out a need, make out a prescription, have the pharmacy fill it, and have the nurse administer it =$$$
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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quote: Labor rates are high in an ER. That is what you are paying for.

Emergency rooms are not cash cows for hospitals. What you helped pay for was the ones who could not pay that the ER was required to treat.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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The problem started during WW2 when companies could not raise wages to get more workers. They offered medical insurance to get new people.
 
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