Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

new carburetor

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 6, 2024 | 10:33 AM
  #91  
redroad's Avatar
redroad
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,217
Likes: 506
From: Pa.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Ericfromfrance
What would happen if i don't recurve the distributor ? does it mean engine will not start or bad performance.
by the way, there's no problem with my local emissions requirements.
The engine was tuned to run with the emissions system in play. When it's removed, any part of it, has to be adjusted for. There are many who run with a total emissions delete and do nothing to compensate but they're leaving some performance, torque, and horse power behind doing so IMHO.
So get the transdapt 2199 spacer and eliminate the EGR plate.
Me, I'd want to have the ignition tip top before I tuned a new carb.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2024 | 11:53 AM
  #92  
Ericfromfrance's Avatar
Ericfromfrance
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 144
Likes: 21
in fact i have a vocabulary problem, which is very specific. i don't get "recurve the distributor"
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2024 | 12:01 PM
  #93  
Rubiranch's Avatar
Rubiranch
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,847
Likes: 3,466
From: South Central Utah
Holley makes a spread bore carburetor.
At least they used to.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2024 | 12:58 PM
  #94  
redroad's Avatar
redroad
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,217
Likes: 506
From: Pa.
Club FTE Gold Member
I'll be at my computer in an hour and be able to walk you through recurving your distributor and what's involved.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2024 | 04:13 PM
  #95  
redroad's Avatar
redroad
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,217
Likes: 506
From: Pa.
Club FTE Gold Member
You'll have no problem with the translation of the phrase "timing curve". Timing is measured by degree's in a circle hence the words "timing curve". A timing curve is the rate at which timing advances with engine rpm. "Recurving " the distributor is changing the rate at which the timing advances. The ability to make these adjustments were/are built into the distributor and vacuum advance. The process involves removing the distributor an dissembling it to the degree that we can determine the mechanical perimeters for which that distributor was set to run under and from that determination adding or subtracting what is needed to give you your new "timing curve". You'll be "recurved" then
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2024 | 09:11 PM
  #96  
440 sixpack's Avatar
440 sixpack
Lead Driver
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 7,912
Likes: 2,373
Chances are your distributor needed some tuning before you started the carburetor replacement.

If you don't need the EGR emissions equipment I'd toss it and plug the hole in the intake with the proper screw. then I'd use a square bore adapter and either a phenolic spacer or a new base spacer like you have. the heat insulation is a good idea and more rise is always good.

Then once you get it all running again before you do anything check your curve with a dial back. you could try the timing tape but it's a lame way to avoid buying a dial back, just borrow one or buy a half decent one you won't regret it. unless you have a distributor machine, and nobody does anymore, there's no way to know where you're going until you know where you are. who knows it might be spot on, or it might be a train wreck. check it and see.
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2024 | 02:56 AM
  #97  
Ericfromfrance's Avatar
Ericfromfrance
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 144
Likes: 21
is it better to go with a new manifold like this one ?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/w...-250/year/1977
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2024 | 07:41 AM
  #98  
redroad's Avatar
redroad
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,217
Likes: 506
From: Pa.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Ericfromfrance
is it better to go with a new manifold like this one ?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/w...-250/year/1977
That intake manifold would be overkill for the amount of your motor is still stock parts. Your current factory intake with the TransDapt 2199 would be my first choice. It blocks off your "EGR" and gives you all the square bore carburetor choices.
If you have an inclination to spend $ then the "Edlebrock performer intake" is a better choice for your current motor configuration but will only give you minimal improvement over the stock spread bore intake, IMHO.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Fords to Drive Before You Die

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / Worst Features Of The 2025+ Ford Expedition

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-4

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
Old Feb 7, 2024 | 09:22 AM
  #99  
440 sixpack's Avatar
440 sixpack
Lead Driver
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 7,912
Likes: 2,373
Agreed, there's no need for a new intake. an adapter will work perfectly fine it's done all the time on GM vehicles.
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2024 | 12:24 PM
  #100  
Ericfromfrance's Avatar
Ericfromfrance
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 144
Likes: 21
i tried to mount the new carburetor like that: the engine start but when the automatic choke goes off the engine goes off too.
i will order the transdapt 2199 spacer and put all the things properly.
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2024 | 10:40 PM
  #101  
440 sixpack's Avatar
440 sixpack
Lead Driver
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 7,912
Likes: 2,373
You need the adapter but even without it the engine shouldn't die.

You mean die or just not run correctly? try advancing the timing a little bit and see if that cures it. when you were hooked to manifold vacuum it gave you quite a bit of advance at idle, now on ported you've lost that. it should run without the adapter.
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2024 | 02:00 AM
  #102  
Ericfromfrance's Avatar
Ericfromfrance
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 144
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by 440 sixpack
You need the adapter but even without it the engine shouldn't die.

You mean die or just not run correctly? try advancing the timing a little bit and see if that cures it. when you were hooked to manifold vacuum it gave you quite a bit of advance at idle, now on ported you've lost that. it should run without the adapter.
I mean die. it's impossible to start again.
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2024 | 03:48 AM
  #103  
Ericfromfrance's Avatar
Ericfromfrance
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 144
Likes: 21
what do you think about this step by step recurve distributor ?
Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_index
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2024 | 04:25 AM
  #104  
redroad's Avatar
redroad
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,217
Likes: 506
From: Pa.
Club FTE Gold Member
You won't be able to start it without blocking off the "EGR" on the intake. That is in part what the TransDapt 2199 does, It blocks off the "EGR" port in the OEM intake manifold.
The way that many have done it is like in the picture is to pull the intake and tap it for a plug. The exhaust crossover built into the intake is blocked off and a 3/16" hole is drilled to allow some of the heat to still flow through the cross over where a colder climate it may be needed for cold starts. For many the crossover brings to much heat to the base of the carb.





 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2024 | 04:29 AM
  #105  
redroad's Avatar
redroad
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,217
Likes: 506
From: Pa.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Ericfromfrance
what do you think about this step by step recurve distributor ?
Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_index
Yes, that is a great write up on recurving the DuraSpark distributor. If you have any questions on the process, just ask.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:54 PM.

story-0
10 Fords to Drive Before You Die

Slideshow: 10 Fords to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-22 14:29:44


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / Worst Features Of The 2025+ Ford Expedition

The latest Expedition is quite popular, but it certainly isn't perfect.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-22 14:23:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-4
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-6
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE