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I’m curious what you guys think of this.
i have a 1990 f50 302 , that is in pretty nice condition..except it needs pain as I put a new box on it.
i saw this and wonder if you guys think I should sell mine.
i think if I bought this it would last me for life.
but my 1990 lariat 4x4 does everything I need and only has 170,000 miles.
this just seems so good.
thankyou in advance and merry Christmas
and the price is Canadian dollars so about 25% less in USA dollars.
I really like those old body style trucks. Certainly the F250 would be much more capable than your F150. I guess it all depends on the condition of the new truck compared to your old one. If similar, the price seems OK, so it might be a good move for you. If the F250 is in good shape, it will provide you MANY years of good service.
that 250 had had a lot of redneckery done to it as can be seen by bumpers, paint, wheels and interior lights and radio modifications.
my personal opinion would be to run away from it.
Thanks for the feed back, I appreciate it.
i never had a diesel and I know nothing about them.
Try to find somebody that does know those older diesel trucks to give it a look.
If the 7.3 diesel in the truck you are looking at is in good shape, it will provide years of trouble-free service. Those 7.3s were "pre-emissions", so no EGR, DPF, SCR, DEF, or (CP4) HPOP, etc which can have problems and be very expensive to repair/replace. On those older trucks, the automatic transmissions were marginal, so make sure to get it checked out also.
being a 95 that truck has a powerstroke engine, so it indeed does have a HPOP on it.
What was called a "high" pressure oil pump on the 7.3 makes roughly 1/10th the pressure of modern common rail systems and does not have the new "feature" of occasionally grenading and sending shrapnel through the fuel system. The truck you are looking at appears a little rough, but if well cared for, it might very well prove to be more reliable than a brand new truck.
The only downside (?) of the early PSDs is (IIRC), they ran single shot injectors and were pretty loud at idle!
Thankyou very much..I am now away for 5 days with family.
but when I get back I will at least go and take a look if it’s still there..thanks for the input and merry Christmas
Have a diesel mechanic familiar with the 7.3 go over it! A lot of things to look for and it appears there is a better than average chance this pickup has seen some ‘hot rodding’ and heavy off road use.
Other than engine, the truck is no different than any other F250. Ball joints, door hinges, body parts, bed…they all wear the same. The older they are the more they become either a problem, on going project or take more and more TLC.
The motor is an outstanding diesel engine but not without a few problems. I didn’t see the mileage listed.
I have some serious concerns with what I’m seeing on the truck the OP has pictured. Like Tom pointed out a lot of things have been done to it. A lot of mods to include grill, headlights and bumper, tires, wheels nerf bars. Could be a problem with parts replacement.
What type of paint is that? Non standard at any rate and will be extremely difficult to touch up or even match. I’ve seen something similar before in pickup I was looking at years ago and they had used bed liner to repaint the pickup. They were trying to cover up body damage and poor repairs.
The E4OD transmission is a good transmission but if the truck has 100,000+ miles, or in that neighborhood, you probably should have a transmission shop drop the pan and inspect it. There have been Ford upgrades to it and a rebuild may be in order. Many people refer to this as ‘bullet proofing’ the transmission. I don’t consider anything as bullet proof.
You probably need to ask about the UVCWH (under valve cover wiring harness) and when the glow plugs had been changed last. Both of these are maintenance items that need periodic inspection and / or replacement.
With these trucks it is almost considered a ‘must have’ to carry a spare CPS in the tool box.
Originally Posted by skid mark
Try to find somebody that does know those older diesel trucks to give it a look.
If the 7.3 diesel in the truck you are looking at is in good shape, it will provide years of trouble-free service. Those 7.3s were "pre-emissions", so no EGR, DPF, SCR, DEF, or (CP4) HPOP, etc which can have problems and be very expensive to repair/replace. On those older trucks, the automatic transmissions were marginal, so make sure to get it checked out also.
Good luck.
Originally Posted by skid mark
What was called a "high" pressure oil pump on the 7.3 makes roughly 1/10th the pressure of modern common rail systems and does not have the new "feature" of occasionally grenading and sending shrapnel through the fuel system. The truck you are looking at appears a little rough, but if well cared for, it might very well prove to be more reliable than a brand new truck.
The only downside (?) of the early PSDs is (IIRC), they ran single shot injectors and were pretty loud at idle!
I currently own a 96 F250 7.3 PSD SuperCab (Extended Cab) 4X4, E4OD, C5 4.10 LS with 250,000 miles.
I also own an F350 6.7 PSD with 135,000.
HPOP - High Pressure Oil Pump - pumps engine oil
HPFP - (CP4) - High Pressure Fuel Pump. - in this case diesel.
HPOP on a 7.3 is a high pressure oil pump which pumps oil (in very simple terms) to the injectors opening them to allow fuel from the rails as a part of the HEUI system - hydraulically activated, electronically controlled, unit injector.
The fuel to the rails on the 7.3 is pumped there by a cam driven mechanical lift fuel pump.
It has no commonality with the HPFP CP4 High pressure fuel pump, which pumps diesel fuel to the fuel rails.
Some of the CP 4 HPFP’s have ‘grenaded’. Considering the number of them used, the percentage is pretty low. Proper fuel, avoiding contaminates, keeping DEF out of diesel, regular filter changes, are easy ways to avoid the problem.
( many threads here on that subject)
On the other hand, the 7.3 has a cam driven mechanical lift fuel pump in the valley that had a minor rep for leaking. The turbo - turbo pedestal and other parts make changing this a whole lot of fun. When you pull the pump you have to use extreme caution a CAM rod doesn’t drop and get stuck in the engine or go all the way to the oil pan.
The 94 to 97 did use the single shot injectors and after that used split shot. Not sure what the downside was. They have never given me any problem. The PSD 7.3 has a growl to it but that is an endearing part of the make up of the original International design and owning a 7.3. Unless it has been modified (monkeyed with) it is really not that loud. 3” or 4 “ down pipe mod is one of noise increases and rather common. It is louder than an unmodified 6.7 and it is easily recognizable by its sound.
