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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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Block heater, Therm

Ok guys, I gots a question or two.
I have a block heater- freeze plug kind (also a in-line one but inlet&outlet is the wrong diamter) Anyway the instructions for it are no thtat great, and I dont wanna blow the whole operatoin when i do this today. Its been in the -20's all week and my 360 is gettin hard to start these days.
Q'#2- Im not sure of the thremostat in her either, but it rarelyt got over 160 in the summer, only when i went 4wheelin in hte heat it go t to 190. But up north here after about 25 mins of warm up it will barely get to 110 and soon as i start drivin she drops to the bottom of guage. So I think im gonna go down to ford and pick up a 190f thermostat and take my truck to work and put htat heater. Gonnsa wing it I guess.
Any help on the heater install would be awesome ..thanks guys
 
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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For heating the coolant a tank heater is the best IMO..Add an oil pan heater, that will help..As will a batt. heater..You may have to put a cover over the rad. when it is that cold, I know I do..The higher t'stat won't hurt either..
 
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Cardboard in front of the radiator is sometimes a must when the temp gets that low. I've never installed a block heater. Dad has one of those magnetic ones. Never used it though.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 01:29 AM
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Update on what happened today. I went to ford to get a thermostat, they didnt have one for me. so I went to Napa and got one. Got to my work, parked her in the washbay. Flushed the rad and what not, took off the housing for therm and turns out there wasnt even one in there!! Then i accidently dropped the 2 bolts for the housing into the sump
I found a couple in the shop luckily got er all together. I didnt bother with the block heaters. I aint messin with the freeze plug crap.

Anywho, it warms up real quik now and stays around 170ish when im cruisin, got heat now...i am stoked. Feels like it runs alot better as well. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 04:21 AM
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not that you will find it necessary , but up here where it stays below zero for extended periods of time , we have found that if you make sure your anti-freeze is correct , the thing that really works the best is a magnetic oil pan heater . you put it on the bottom of your pan and cover it liberaly with gasket sealer . that keeps it on and insulates it . the antifreez keeps your water from freezing and the oil pan heater completely heats all the oil. It makes your engine spin on a cold day as fast as it does on a warm one , you dont need to have it plugged in all night , just plug it in when you get up in the morning , usually at least 30 minutes before starting your truck. its a lot easier on bearings and timing chains and when you start up ,your heater works alot faster . we also do the cardboard trick along with this ,the problem up here is that if we dont our radiators freeze as we drive down the road. this may be alot more than you are looking for but someone else may benifit. good luck
 
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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one last , the oil pan heaters heat both the water and oil wheras the water heaters only heat the water leaving the oil thick and slow moving in the bottom of the pan
 
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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Ok I'm a little slow, when you said you dropped the two housing bolts into the sump, was that the engine or the washbay?

Barry
 
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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I think he meant the washbay
I have a water heater on my GMC and it works great
2 bad the truck doesn't work anymore. haha
Id like to get one for my 66, but haven't found one for a 390
but I haven't really shopped for them either
 
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KATS brand has a coule variations of circulating water heaters. I used to have one on my '70 F100 back in the day(may it rest in pieces). Do a Google search(or whoever) for KATS heater. I did this a month or so ago for someone here that was looking for one. Found their website with model numbers and prices.

For about $30 you can set yourself right up.

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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 01:19 AM
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Yeah it would be tjhe sump in the washbay the bolts fell in....
Someone was tellin me about the uh, magnetic heater , ive never seen one . Im gonna go get one though right quik.
I also had a peivce of cardboard to put in front of the rad....im pretty lazy. still havent put it in,.. and that was a good while ago.

Now ive got the seat out and the dash ripp'd apart.....heater core ***** the bed ...
 
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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What year truck do you have?
I didnt have to take the seat out or the dash apart to get min eout
 
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 02:30 AM
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Question on the magnetic oil heater, Where do ya'll get thoes at? I have looked around my locak parts houses and can't find any. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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No its not necesary i take the seat out..i did it for kicks. Gonna get new seats anyway, plus it gives me alot more room to screw around,
Im not sure i havent looked around for the magnetic heater yet.
Only place here i can think of would be napa.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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"the thing that really works the best is a magnetic oil pan heater . you put it on the bottom of your pan and cover it liberaly with gasket sealer . that keeps it on and insulates it ."
I've got an aluminum oil pan. Will the gasket sealer keep it attached to that?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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yes it will, good luck , and up here we buy them at napa or car quest. any auto parts store should have them or be able to order them, bob
 

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