F600 Vin Question
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F600 Vin Question
Friend of mine was wanting me to decode a vin with this mystery F600 he's had sitting for years. Because it is not mine I won't be sharing the vin but had a question. So far I've decoded about half the vin but I'm trying to determine the year, factory it was built at, and the color. The manufacturer sticker is all torn up from the pictures I got so I can't see a date. It's a 5th generation as far as I know. I have narrowed it down to years 67-72 from the grille change. That was from Wikipedia so I don't know how true it is but I'm going to hope it's right. The letter for the factory is a C which I haven't been able to find other vin decodes on here that correlate with that letter. The codes it has for the color are YM. Any decoding charts or information on these would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Asking the experts here to piecemeal decode a vin is like sending a boxer into the ring blindfolded. Do you think that one of our members is going to steal the vin when you are not looking? Vin plates are photographed and published here many times a day with no ill effect.
Almost everyone asking this very question attaches a photograph or two in case there is a discrepancy between the vin and the actual vehicle.You have labeled it a mystery vehicle and it should remain exactly that.
Regards, Mark
Almost everyone asking this very question attaches a photograph or two in case there is a discrepancy between the vin and the actual vehicle.You have labeled it a mystery vehicle and it should remain exactly that.
Regards, Mark
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Asking the experts here to piecemeal decode a vin is like sending a boxer into the ring blindfolded. Do you think that one of our members is going to steal the vin when you are not looking? Vin plates are photographed and published here many times a day with no ill effect.
Almost everyone asking this very question attaches a photograph or two in case there is a discrepancy between the vin and the actual vehicle.You have labeled it a mystery vehicle and it should remain exactly that.
Regards, Mark
Almost everyone asking this very question attaches a photograph or two in case there is a discrepancy between the vin and the actual vehicle.You have labeled it a mystery vehicle and it should remain exactly that.
Regards, Mark
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From: Howell, Michigan
Ownership information from a vin can be searched on a state by state basis, if the inquirer pays for a year by year search. Very expensive for this type of search, and, assuming the “thief” finds out the owner of record, what are they going to do with it? Steal it and try to sell it? Part it out?
To me, this is paranoid secrecy, but everyone has their frailties, including me.
Regards, Mark
To me, this is paranoid secrecy, but everyone has their frailties, including me.
Regards, Mark
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C = Ontario Truck Plant
YM
Y = Medium Aqua for MY '69-'71
M = White
Is it a two tone truck?
The year is determined by the sequential number. You can post the VIN and leave the last 3 digits out--that will be enough to determine the year. Of course, the rest of the warranty plate helps confirm the numbers through the model number and vin. IIRC '67 and '76 use the same numbers, but the model and GVWR are usually different. Plus all US built trucks were V for Kentucky Truck Plant after 9/69.
What is used to decode these is the Master Parts Catalog and the year specific shop manual. Some folks have the full set of paper or microfiche MPCs and have been able to help with part numbers and applications. Numberdummy was a source for years, but has moved on to other interests. What I use is the samples of those things found on the internet. See below.
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YM
Y = Medium Aqua for MY '69-'71
M = White
Is it a two tone truck?
The year is determined by the sequential number. You can post the VIN and leave the last 3 digits out--that will be enough to determine the year. Of course, the rest of the warranty plate helps confirm the numbers through the model number and vin. IIRC '67 and '76 use the same numbers, but the model and GVWR are usually different. Plus all US built trucks were V for Kentucky Truck Plant after 9/69.
What is used to decode these is the Master Parts Catalog and the year specific shop manual. Some folks have the full set of paper or microfiche MPCs and have been able to help with part numbers and applications. Numberdummy was a source for years, but has moved on to other interests. What I use is the samples of those things found on the internet. See below.
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C = Ontario Truck Plant
YM
Y = Medium Aqua for MY '69-'71
M = White
Is it a two tone truck?
The year is determined by the sequential number. You can post the VIN and leave the last 3 digits out--that will be enough to determine the year. Of course, the rest of the warranty plate helps confirm the numbers through the model number and vin. IIRC '67 and '76 use the same numbers, but the model and GVWR are usually different. Plus all US built trucks were V for Kentucky Truck Plant after 9/69.
What is used to decode these is the Master Parts Catalog and the year specific shop manual. Some folks have the full set of paper or microfiche MPCs and have been able to help with part numbers and applications. Numberdummy was a source for years, but has moved on to other interests. What I use is the samples of those things found on the internet like so:
Demo20082.pdf 73 79 ford truck catalog.pdf
YM
Y = Medium Aqua for MY '69-'71
M = White
Is it a two tone truck?
The year is determined by the sequential number. You can post the VIN and leave the last 3 digits out--that will be enough to determine the year. Of course, the rest of the warranty plate helps confirm the numbers through the model number and vin. IIRC '67 and '76 use the same numbers, but the model and GVWR are usually different. Plus all US built trucks were V for Kentucky Truck Plant after 9/69.
What is used to decode these is the Master Parts Catalog and the year specific shop manual. Some folks have the full set of paper or microfiche MPCs and have been able to help with part numbers and applications. Numberdummy was a source for years, but has moved on to other interests. What I use is the samples of those things found on the internet like so:
Demo20082.pdf 73 79 ford truck catalog.pdf
I had my suspicions that the truck was built in Canada. I found two other trucks that were being decoded on here that matched that but both were cabover trucks so I wasn't sure if they were different from the F600-900.
Yes sir the truck is a two tone.
If I got the story right my friend's farm in NE used it as a water truck for the cattle part of the business back in the day. It was occasionally used to haul cattle as well. He says he thinks the truck has been sitting for at least 20 years but probably closer to 30. When the farm got the truck it was converted to propane but it has a 330 FT. I think the reason they said it was parked was because it would flood itself out.
The vin (without the last three numbers) is F61DCH77
As for the rest of the information on the plate I was luckily able to decode already. I'd be happy to share that part of the information on the trans and diff if anyone wishes. Just ask and I will post it when I can.
Once again I really appreciate it 85e150.
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Btw I could not get your link to work for some reason. Could you possibly repost it so I can see if it'll work? Thanks.
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F61 = F600 gas, 4x2
D = 330 2V HD FT gas V8. (Steel crank with larger snout, larger oil pump drive, "full on FT")
C = Ontario Truck Plant
H77xxx = 1970 numerical series, March 1970 production
The link I had to the MPC doesn't even work for me, so.... Do a search for "Ford master parts catalog". You will find items labled "Demo" from Forel Publishing. These are short versions and the '64-'72 doesn't have rear axle codes, and certain other items aren't there either. You can, in addition and to fill the gap, search "19xx Ford Truck Shop Manual". Again, these are "Demo" items with limited info. Limited but enough to decode the warranty plate.
Or, from those links and others you can find, you can buy or download (for a fee) the whole catalog or manual.
D = 330 2V HD FT gas V8. (Steel crank with larger snout, larger oil pump drive, "full on FT")
C = Ontario Truck Plant
H77xxx = 1970 numerical series, March 1970 production
The link I had to the MPC doesn't even work for me, so.... Do a search for "Ford master parts catalog". You will find items labled "Demo" from Forel Publishing. These are short versions and the '64-'72 doesn't have rear axle codes, and certain other items aren't there either. You can, in addition and to fill the gap, search "19xx Ford Truck Shop Manual". Again, these are "Demo" items with limited info. Limited but enough to decode the warranty plate.
Or, from those links and others you can find, you can buy or download (for a fee) the whole catalog or manual.
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F61 = F600 gas, 4x2
D = 330 2V HD FT gas V8. (Steel crank with larger snout, larger oil pump drive, "full on FT")
C = Ontario Truck Plant
H77xxx = 1970 numerical series, March 1970 production
The link I had to the MPC doesn't even work for me, so.... Do a search for "Ford master parts catalog". You will find items labled "Demo" from Forel Publishing. These are short versions and the '64-'72 doesn't have rear axle codes, and certain other items aren't there either. You can, in addition and to fill the gap, search "19xx Ford Truck Shop Manual". Again, these are "Demo" items with limited info. Limited but enough to decode the warranty plate.
Or, from those links and others you can find, you can buy or download (for a fee) the whole catalog or manual.
D = 330 2V HD FT gas V8. (Steel crank with larger snout, larger oil pump drive, "full on FT")
C = Ontario Truck Plant
H77xxx = 1970 numerical series, March 1970 production
The link I had to the MPC doesn't even work for me, so.... Do a search for "Ford master parts catalog". You will find items labled "Demo" from Forel Publishing. These are short versions and the '64-'72 doesn't have rear axle codes, and certain other items aren't there either. You can, in addition and to fill the gap, search "19xx Ford Truck Shop Manual". Again, these are "Demo" items with limited info. Limited but enough to decode the warranty plate.
Or, from those links and others you can find, you can buy or download (for a fee) the whole catalog or manual.
Thanks to everyone for your time. Always a plus side to learn more about these old trucks.
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