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Just hit 28k and my factory GY wranglers are about toast. I’ve always run ko2’s on my 1/2 tons but read they aren’t suited for heavier trucks like my f250.
I have seen a newer line of tires called the BFG HD terrain but haven’t seen much online feedback about them. Anyone here have them, and if so thoughts about tread life and all the common tire thread questions.
The BFG HD's are too rich for my blood at around $500 each in the size I would run. I have been running the Tremor Duratracs and really do like them. I can get 45k miles from a set. I think I am going to try the Mickey Thompson Baja AT's in a 305/70-18 Snowflake rated, a little more aggressive than many AT's and 50k treadwear warranty. These are obnoxiously expensive as well around $460 each. I benefit from the winter traction where I live.
The BFG HD's are too rich for my blood at around $500 each in the size I would run. I have been running the Tremor Duratracs and really do like them. I can get 45k miles from a set. I think I am going to try the Mickey Thompson Baja AT's in a 305/70-18 Snowflake rated, a little more aggressive than many AT's and 50k treadwear warranty. These are obnoxiously expensive as well around $460 each. I benefit from the winter traction where I live.
They are a little pricey, which is why I was asking for opinions from people who have run them. The stock size 270/70 r18 I can get for 300 each, if I step up to 285/75 they are about 455 each. That’s a lot of money for 2inches.
The BFG HD's are too rich for my blood at around $500 each in the size I would run. I have been running the Tremor Duratracs and really do like them. I can get 45k miles from a set. I think I am going to try the Mickey Thompson Baja AT's in a 305/70-18 Snowflake rated, a little more aggressive than many AT's and 50k treadwear warranty. These are obnoxiously expensive as well around $460 each. I benefit from the winter traction where I live.
You're right - most tires in this "tier" will run between $450-$550 EA. The sidewall on the Mickey T's is really aggressive - I really dig this tire. It's getting good reviews and the tread pattern looks like a good snow/wet tire. I'm going to wear out my factory Dueler's; hope they last as long as the Wranglers did on my 2017, I got 52k miles on those. But I'll be looking for 37's when the time comes, so I'll start saving now. For what it's worth, tirebuyer.com has these new BFG's at $591 for a 37. But looking at the tread pattern, they don't "look" like they would carry good traction in the rain - not enough siping.
I've run almost every tire on the market on my trucks. Just some observations:
- Nitto tires are trash. Run, don't walk, run away. They use hard rubber compounds that tend to wear decently at the expense of traction. They are horrible in rain, and dangerous in snow.
- Goodyear Duratracs are dangerous in foul weather. They last forever for the same reason I mentioned with the Nitto tires, but they likewise have horrible traction in foul weather. They also get loud after the first couple of cross-rotations.
- BFGoodrich KO and KO2 are terrible in snow and mud, and they wear poorly. The rubber compound also dry rots quickly if you live in a climate with hot summer sun.
- Falken tires are probably the best I've ever used. Not one single bad thing to say about them. They stick to the road like a cat on carpet. They're good off road, and great in bad weather.
- Cooper AT3 and the derivitives of the AT3 are a good mid-grade American made tire. A little hard to balance usually, but they wear good and have good traction.
- There are some lesser known brands like Milestar, Kenda, etc. that are making some really good all-terrain truck tires now. I've had good luck with them for the money. I'd actually buy these over a $hi*to or Goodforayear tire any day of the week.
I've run almost every tire on the market on my trucks. Just some observations:
- Nitto tires are trash. Run, don't walk, run away. They use hard rubber compounds that tend to wear decently at the expense of traction. They are horrible in rain, and dangerous in snow.
- BFGoodrich KO and KO2 are terrible in snow and mud, and they wear poorly. The rubber compound also dry rots quickly if you live in a climate with hot summer sun.
Well, I will respectfully disagree with you on those two tire viewpoints. I ran Nitto Terra Grapplers on my F-150 and they worked well on street, in snow, in rain and off road. They performed better than the Hankooks that came on the truck from Ford. They had 40,000+ miles on them when I sold the truck and they still had plenty of tread left. The only mark against them is they did get noisier as they wore - but I've yet to see ANY AT tire that doesn't do the same thing to some degree.
As far as my Super Duty goes I am on my 2nd set of BFG KO2s. The 1st set had a little over 50,000 miles on them and there was still tread left. I replaced them simply out of timing - I was in Florida where my buddy's tire and wheel shop is and he hooked me up with a new set for his cost. Otherwise I would have waited for another 5,000 - 7,000 miles before I replaced them.
As far as the tire performance goes they are AWESOME in ice and snow. Two years ago it snowed quite a bit (6" - 8") on Christmas eve. We drove over to Maggie Valley on Christmas morning to spend the holidays with some friends from Florida who had rented a cabin way up in the mountains. I'm talking STEEP, twisty roads to get to that cabin. I put the F-350 in four high and drove up to the cabin without ANY slippage or trouble. As we came around one of the tight switchbacks we were looking up a long, steep, straight road that a bunch of kids were sledding down. When we drove up the road I stopped when I reached the next switchback. Their Dad was with them and he couldn't believe I was driving up from the valley - he was in his Jeep that morning and had to leave it at the bottom because he couldn't get enough traction on the ice and snow. He called his wife and she sent the kids down with their UTV to bring him up to their cabin. He looked at my tires and noted the brand. He had Wranglers on his Jeep, FWIW. I have also driven through some pretty sketchy sections of icy roads and snow in Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio and Pennsylvania. The BFG KO2s never failed to perform.
One other vote of affirmation for the BFGs - my buddy that has the tire and wheel shop in Florida has sold THOUSANDS of them - and he says the only tire brand that has a lower problem return rate is Michelin. He runs them on his own SUV so that says something to me.
Well, I will respectfully disagree with you on those two tire viewpoints. I ran Nitto Terra Grapplers on my F-150 and they worked well on street, in snow, in rain and off road. They performed better than the Hankooks that came on the truck from Ford. They had 40,000+ miles on them when I sold the truck and they still had plenty of tread left. The only mark against them is they did get noisier as they wore - but I've yet to see ANY AT tire that doesn't do the same thing to some degree.
As far as my Super Duty goes I am on my 2nd set of BFG KO2s. The 1st set had a little over 50,000 miles on them and there was still tread left. I replaced them simply out of timing - I was in Florida where my buddy's tire and wheel shop is and he hooked me up with a new set for his cost. Otherwise I would have waited for another 5,000 - 7,000 miles before I replaced them.
As far as the tire performance goes they are AWESOME in ice and snow. Two years ago it snowed quite a bit (6" - 8") on Christmas eve. We drove over to Maggie Valley on Christmas morning to spend the holidays with some friends from Florida who had rented a cabin way up in the mountains. I'm talking STEEP, twisty roads to get to that cabin. I put the F-350 in four high and drove up to the cabin without ANY slippage or trouble. As we came around one of the tight switchbacks we were looking up a long, steep, straight road that a bunch of kids were sledding down. When we drove up the road I stopped when I reached the next switchback. Their Dad was with them and he couldn't believe I was driving up from the valley - he was in his Jeep that morning and had to leave it at the bottom because he couldn't get enough traction on the ice and snow. He called his wife and she sent the kids down with their UTV to bring him up to their cabin. He looked at my tires and noted the brand. He had Wranglers on his Jeep, FWIW. I have also driven through some pretty sketchy sections of icy roads and snow in Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio and Pennsylvania. The BFG KO2s never failed to perform.
One other vote of affirmation for the BFGs - my buddy that has the tire and wheel shop in Florida has sold THOUSANDS of them - and he says the only tire brand that has a lower problem return rate is Michelin. He runs them on his own SUV so that says something to me.
I had nitro ridge grapplers on a previous truck and they were exactly as the previous poster described. They had ok wear qualities but they seemed to get harder and really struggle with anything worse than a completely dry roadway.
rain and snow they were ****ty. Never really put them in much mud so I won’t comment there but if never buy them again
i I think people just like the way they look because they do look cool
I ran KO2s on my 07 F-250. They were still looking great at 40k miles when the truck was traded. Snow traction was very good. Ice was OK. Overall they were a great F-250 tire.
I'm an admitted BFG fan boy. Several sets on multiple trucks. A/T's on my old 2wd Ranger. Never got it stuck even in Western and Central NY winters. On a 4wd, snow performance is excellent. Wet traction is par for the course. Nothing to write home about but not terrible. All sets lasted 60k+.
BFG M/T wear a little quick and are worse in rain but phenomenal in snow on a 4wd.
I'm interested in the BFG HD. Little real world info. Seems more like the M/T than an A/T.
I'm an admitted BFG fan boy. Several sets on multiple trucks. A/T's on my old 2wd Ranger. Never got it stuck even in Western and Central NY winters. On a 4wd, snow performance is excellent. Wet traction is par for the course. Nothing to write home about but not terrible. All sets lasted 60k+.
BFG M/T wear a little quick and are worse in rain but phenomenal in snow on a 4wd.
I'm interested in the BFG HD. Little real world info. Seems more like the M/T than an A/T.
I am also, BFG’s are the only thing I’ve ran for probably 15 years or more. This is my first SD and I am less than impressed with the Goodyears, and as a matter of fact I just took a set of GY endurances off my 2 year old camper today and put on Carlisle HD’s.