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Hotshot
Joined: Mar 2017
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From: Chaz
Without open source and/or relying on data coming in from outside of the vehicle‘s telematics systems they probably would eventually pass laws against this?
Once you own the hardware, you own the hardware.
Once you own the hardware, you own the hardware.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jul 2019
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You may own the hardware, but you don't own the software. Without the software, the image from the hardware does not get displayed. I expect the terms of software use are defined deep in the terms and conditions the owner knowingly, or unknowingly agrees to at the time of vehicle purchase.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jan 2010
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This guy reads.
In general the idea is that it is cheaper to include it for all if (and only if) they can sell enough activations. Marketing/sales must have convinced leadership that the conversion numbers will be there. I've seen this business model for decades in the IT field. Sure there are software upsells but also mainframe computers would come with multiple processors which you could activate by paying the extra licensing.
I don't really have an issue with it for lower trim lines but at some point I would rather not be "nickled and dimed" if I buy a higher trim line .. just build it into the price.
In general the idea is that it is cheaper to include it for all if (and only if) they can sell enough activations. Marketing/sales must have convinced leadership that the conversion numbers will be there. I've seen this business model for decades in the IT field. Sure there are software upsells but also mainframe computers would come with multiple processors which you could activate by paying the extra licensing.
I don't really have an issue with it for lower trim lines but at some point I would rather not be "nickled and dimed" if I buy a higher trim line .. just build it into the price.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,410
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From: Central KY
Yep after GM did it I knew it was a matter of time. I’m slowly making this ‘19 into what I want and need with aftermarket electronics and parts and I will run it until the end of time with you.
It’s honestly an insult to ask over $70k for a pickup truck and THEN tell the buyer that, oh, by the way you have to make additional monthly payments if you want to keep using the things you just bought. A real slap in the face.
Not me, Ford. I won’t be suckered.
It’s honestly an insult to ask over $70k for a pickup truck and THEN tell the buyer that, oh, by the way you have to make additional monthly payments if you want to keep using the things you just bought. A real slap in the face.
Not me, Ford. I won’t be suckered.
Lead Driver
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Kaysville Utah
But I don't need another monthly subscription. I never renew my Navigation software, I'm not going to pay for Sirrus, I use the free version of Pandora.
Hotshot
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 19,687
Likes: 12,812
From: Wyoming
Is it possible that the subscription is just for the split view and the 360 camera is not part of the subscription?
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Logistics Pro
Joined: Jan 2010
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I'll grant that Sirus is installed on basically everything now, but that receiver can be bought for less than $100. These cameras are an $1100 option from the factory, even more if you want to add them after the fact, needing to pay for a subscription to use them is just asinine.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,461
Likes: 536
From: Wasilla, AK
I fail to understand how Ford can add a monthly user fee for any option unless it is disclosed when you purchase it.
Now, if the F150 states up front you have pay a fee then buyer beware.
Now, if the F150 states up front you have pay a fee then buyer beware.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jan 2022
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You guys are acting like a subscription model is a new thing, it's been around for a loooong time. Our 2023 Subaru we bought has an app similar to the FordPass app, it actually does a lot more than FordPass but that's beside the point. After 3 years which was supposedly paid for by the dealer we have to pay a yearly subscription for the use of that app if we want to continue using it. Sirius has been mentioned, that was one of the more major subscription services but there are 1000s of other subscription type services. If you don't like it, don't pay for it but then you won't be able to use it. Ford won't bat an eye when 10 guys from this forum goes to the other two brands for their HD trucks all over a silly subscription. I don't agree with them doing this but I'm not going to loose any sleep over it either and it won't change my mind on whether I'll buy another SD truck in the future.
Trailering
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 22
Likes: 2
From: Fulton, MO
It just makes me happy that I just got my '23(with 360 camera package), cause I would be pretty upset if my new $65k truck had a feature I'd paid for that I couldn't use with out paying Ford every month for the privilege! I don't use the factory Nav either, just my phone's google maps displayed on the trucks screen. 
