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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 07:45 PM
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2002 5.4 running issue with feeze fram data

So I have this 2002 5.4, it was running like poop

So far I have done plugs, cop’s, cleaned the tb, the maf sensor, ran sea foam thru it

Checked everywhere for vac leaks

I did find the exhaust flange wasn’t tightened down right above the o2 sensor on the passenger side, tightened that down and the exhaust leak went away

So I ran the codes and still getting the same one

Here is a picture of the freeze frame

 
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 08:55 PM
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Did you clear the codes after fixing the exhaust leak? You didn't say. And you didn't really say how it's running after fixing the exhaust leak.

I just read the words in the order they were written. Fixed exhaust leak, checked codes looks like the very last things you did.

 
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 09:04 PM
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And, I've never seen fuel trims that high. The PCM is dumping loads of extra fuel in to Bank 1 apparently because the O2 sensor is showing lean. Looks like it's dumping so much that it's making its way in to the oil and the PCV system, which then gets sucked in to Bank 2. Just a guess, but it's pulling a lot of fuel on Bank 2. -16.4% is a lot to pull.

I wonder if you damaged/clogged a catalytic converter with all of the extra fuel. Might want to check your oil for gasoline dilution also. Good luck.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 10:53 PM
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Could also be a bad O2 sensor. Check the wiring for damage. Possibly replace the sensor.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 05:36 AM
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It is just about to the adaptive limit of 25 percent
Means intake gasket leak or intake manifold plenum is cracked
If the O2 sensor PID is stuck lean on that bank, a new O2 sensor will not fix it
I would pull the intake and inspect the plastic weld around the plenum (at the bottom) or smoke test it
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
It is just about to the adaptive limit of 25 percent
Means intake gasket leak or intake manifold plenum is cracked
If the O2 sensor PID is stuck lean on that bank, a new O2 sensor will not fix it
I would pull the intake and inspect the plastic weld around the plenum (at the bottom) or smoke test it
this ….

you got a serious leak somewhere. Fastest way is to smoke the intake and look for leaks. You’re going to be amazed at how many you’ll find. Had a similar situation on a Ford Taurus. The power returned was amazing.

Also, are you sure the plugs you put in are good? I’ve had bad ones outta the box before too…are you getting any miss fire?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2023 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by superrangerman2002
this ….

you got a serious leak somewhere. Fastest way is to smoke the intake and look for leaks. You’re going to be amazed at how many you’ll find. Had a similar situation on a Ford Taurus. The power returned was amazing.

Also, are you sure the plugs you put in are good? I’ve had bad ones outta the box before too…are you getting any miss fire?
I replaced all the injectors and the numbers are now back with in range.

I did a smoke test and only found 2 leaks around the throttle body
 
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Old Sep 12, 2023 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by remmers
I replaced all the injectors and the numbers are now back with in range.

I did a smoke test and only found 2 leaks around the throttle body
Problem solved. Thanks for updating.
 
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Originally Posted by remmers
I replaced all the injectors and the numbers are now back with in range.

I did a smoke test and only found 2 leaks around the throttle body
great!

did you also replace the fuel filter?
 
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Originally Posted by superrangerman2002
great!

did you also replace the fuel filter?
Yes

It runs better but still not 100%
 
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