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Very confused on all these numbers on that linked calculator. Free Towing Weight Calculator (Trailer-5th Wheel-Gooseneck) (rvingzone.com)
According to Ford, my 2023 F350 4x4 CCSB 7.3 3.73 can max tow tow 17,500 (5th wheel). My Payload sticker says 4390. The Toy hauler I'm looking at is a UVW 12,849 & 16,995 GVWR (24,600 GCWR). The TH has a CCC of 4146 lbs. Our fully loaded capacity is estimated to @ 3400 lbs. So, I guesstimate that I would be rolling at somewhere around 16,500 fully loaded. Is this doable or am I going to be overweight?
According to Ford, my 2023 F350 4x4 CCSB 7.3 3.73 can max tow tow 17,500 (5th wheel). My Payload sticker says 4390. The Toy hauler I'm looking at is a UVW 12,849 & 16,995 GVWR (24,600 GCWR). The TH has a CCC of 4146 lbs. Our fully loaded capacity is estimated to @ 3400 lbs. So, I guesstimate that I would be rolling at somewhere around 16,500 fully loaded. Is this doable or am I going to be overweight?
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You'll be overweight but you see guys all the time pulling similar with the same setup all the time. Toy haulers can be hard to estimate as it depends on how and what you are loading in your garage, that can affect the tongue weight quite a bit from my understanding. That being said I wouldn't want to tow something that large without a dually.
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It's not really how much the trailer weighs as it is what the PIN weighs in the bed of the truck. A 16,500 GVW with 20% pin weight is 3300 pounds over the rear axle of the truck. This is a guesstimate since the pin weight can be anywhere from 15-24% depending on how it is loaded and where the cargo bays are located. Also keep in mind when the garage is empty the pin weight is going to be even higher, so if you have to travel with an empty garage, make sure you have payload to handle it.
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As said, pin weight will be your biggest issue.
Use the GVW of any trailer and then 20% for the king pin and ignore what maybe listed on the RV as the king pin. It will be wrong since it was that before anything gets added.
I would start by loading your truck how you would travel to include the hitch if you have it and then go to a cat scale and get your current weights per axle and the then the combined.
Then consult your tires at max psi and the white sticker for the axle ratings. Simple math can then tell you if there is enough left.
Truthfully a toy hauler and a gas truck with trying to negoiate a fuel stop in the gas lanes. I would not go there. You need the truck lanes while on the road and those are all diesel.
Use the GVW of any trailer and then 20% for the king pin and ignore what maybe listed on the RV as the king pin. It will be wrong since it was that before anything gets added.
I would start by loading your truck how you would travel to include the hitch if you have it and then go to a cat scale and get your current weights per axle and the then the combined.
Then consult your tires at max psi and the white sticker for the axle ratings. Simple math can then tell you if there is enough left.
Truthfully a toy hauler and a gas truck with trying to negoiate a fuel stop in the gas lanes. I would not go there. You need the truck lanes while on the road and those are all diesel.
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Doable, but you will be pushing the limits. Not sure where you live & plan to tow the trailer, but diesel definitely outperforms gas in the high elevation western mountains.
Fueling can be an issue. Heck just getting gas for the toyhauler fuel station can be a challenge.
Fueling can be an issue. Heck just getting gas for the toyhauler fuel station can be a challenge.
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As long as you give yourself plenty of time to find a gas station there's generally no issue getting your rig into a gas station, or at least I've not encountered issues. I have had to pay 10 cents more here or there or go maybe 20 miles down the road but have yet to find a station I can't get my 7.3 gasser into with my 38 ft bumper pull in and out of. The key is not waiting until you're on E to start looking. Once I hit 1/4 tank I keep my eyes peeled for suitable station.
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Fueling was my major caveat towards going gas. Dragging a 43' 5th wheel behind a SCREW long bed makes most gas stations ineligible for fueling. It's only about 8' shorter than most semis out there. It was tough enough with the F-150 and a 28' conventional at times because people are ignorant and pay no attention to whats around them and block your way in and out.
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Looking at another TH that is about 2k lighter so roughly 14,200 GVWR. The folks we roll with have 5th wheels and we stop at the same fuel stops and have no significant problems. Sure, we wait sometimes but we just adjust or routines and allow some extra time. Unless Ford ditches the CP4, I don't see me going back to a diesel any time soon. And unless Ram ever decides to update their decades old truck designs and transmissions, I'll just take it a little bit slower in the gasser.
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