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I don't really care all that much but I like the idea of a 23' dedicated forum. A possible downfall could be 23'+ people might lose a little input from the 17-22' crowd on questions we have.
So we’re basing them on looks now instead of hard parts?
Well, then the ‘23 looks close enough to the ‘17-‘22 to not warrant a new forum.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Ford calls it a 5th gen, so its a 5th gen.
Modern vehicles are all about electronics, software, modules etc more than they are about chunks of steel.
When a truck uses a different electrical architecture there will be a different series of codes, modifications, problems. None of these will apply to 17-22 trucks that use the older architecture. So a year or two from now you will have a the first few pages of a forum completely filled with 2023+ problems and the 2017-2022 guys will have to wade through those threads to find ones about their older trucks or vice versa.
I have a 23 and don't believe it needs a new forum. Sure there are plenty of differences but there are a lot of similarities as well with shared parts that fail just like the older versions.
I like to post a problem here and have as many experienced eyes on the post as possible.
If I was to have a 23+ forum and we posted our issues, and there will be plenty, you won't get the amount of knowledge and experience to resolve that issue. JMO
Just wanted to check in here and let you know that "no action taken" does not mean that you are not being heard, or agreed with in some cases.
I know it is hard not to think that the moderators of SD forum don't care, but we do, and we must operate within various constraints that we are not always able to share, which likely makes it even harder for members to understand, which forces guesswork as to what logic lays behind the results (or lack thereof) actually seen.
But at least know this: you are being heard. And you may continue to keep talking.
You'll have to forgive me, but this topic is important enough to inspire me to remove a few posts that veered off the topic of structuring the Super Duty forum. Since the removed comments were personal barbs (described as "in jest"), when taken in sum, they trended toward derailing the thread, and as such were off topic.
Please feel free to contribute your arguments for keeping this forum the same as it is currently, or creating new sub-forums for the different genres of 17+ Super Duty.
Without distracting tangents, the thread will be easier to digest for administrative consideration. Thanks!
I don't have a horse in this race and don't really care either way if the 23's get their own forum. But I'll bet the 23 folks will all be in the 17-22 forum when they can't find something or figure something out.
Probably, and it'll be fine since it's the same engine, same trans, same axles, and the rest is updated but similar to before.
I don't care that the engine was tweaked again (for the third or fourth time). I don't care that the body panels are shaped slightly different. It's essentially the same truck. When they change the cereal box on the shelf at Kroger I don't care because I can still figure out what's inside.
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