2023 Model Forum
Mountain Pass
Joined: Feb 2007
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As a previous owner of a '12, '17, '20 and now a 2023 there was a massive jump 2016 to 2017 and then a massive jump 2023+
Hotshot
Joined: Jun 2003
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From: SW VA
Im just saying that precedent has been set, so don’t hold your breath.
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2021
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the 17-19 is not much different than 20-22
whreas the 23s introduced much greater changes to anything prior
Agreed about either way it doesn’t look like it’s happening either way
Mountain Pass
Joined: Feb 2007
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2023 does not share a single body panel with any of them.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Feb 2020
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From: End of the Rockies
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...uty-today.html
This is pretty much a sun forum.
When a frame change like when they went to box frame or if they go independent front suspension.
Probably hybrid electric will be the next one.
This is pretty much a sun forum.
When a frame change like when they went to box frame or if they go independent front suspension.
Probably hybrid electric will be the next one.
Tuned
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 497
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From: Northwest FL
I don't have a horse in this race and don't really care either way if the 23's get their own forum. But I'll bet the 23 folks will all be in the 17-22 forum when they can't find something or figure something out. 
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Logistics Pro
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Do you care about how a truck looks, or what the drivetrain and powerplants it uses?
Logistics Pro
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In retrospect if Ford still sells a truck like yours with the proven 6.2 and the smooth 6 speed, I would not hesitate to buy it over a 23, every single day of the week.
Laughing Gas
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Does the '23 really have 100% new body panels? Does it have a new frame, new suspension, new powertrains?
Admittedly I haven't researched them, but I would think that if they had released a NEW diesel (not an update to the 15 year old one), a NEW platform, NEW cab....we'd have seen it all over the internet. The only new things I see are a 6.8L engine (which is just a tweaked 7.3) and yet another grille.
I'm reminded of the S197 5.0 Mustangs. 11-12 and 13-14 have a LOT of differences including grille, lights, interior, dash, body shape front and rear, and even an updated engine for '13. But those cars are always lumped together because it's the same PLATFORM. If you made a new forum every time a wire changed colors you'd have 1,000 forums.
Admittedly I haven't researched them, but I would think that if they had released a NEW diesel (not an update to the 15 year old one), a NEW platform, NEW cab....we'd have seen it all over the internet. The only new things I see are a 6.8L engine (which is just a tweaked 7.3) and yet another grille.
I'm reminded of the S197 5.0 Mustangs. 11-12 and 13-14 have a LOT of differences including grille, lights, interior, dash, body shape front and rear, and even an updated engine for '13. But those cars are always lumped together because it's the same PLATFORM. If you made a new forum every time a wire changed colors you'd have 1,000 forums.
It was argued hard for a new sub-forum, but the people that hadn't actually checked into any of the details thought it was the same with a facelift. Ford calls it a new generation. The F-150 gets a new sub-forum every time it gets a re-fresh, but the admins in the Superduty section are sticking with past mistakes of keeping trucks grouped together that have little in common with each other. No one will even give a list of what would be needed to be considered for a new sub-forum.
Logistics Pro
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100% new body panels, different cab, different electronics and features, different interior, rear frame reinforcements, same basic suspension design, big jump in towing and payload capabilities, and a new generation of the 6.7. Almost none of the parts in the current 6.7 match with the original 6.7 (12 years ago). It's like saying all the GM Duramax engines are the same.
Cargo Master
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if you wanna go down this route we now have an HO 6.7 and a 6.8 gas. An entirely new interior, new electronics and options etc. lots of differences once you get beneath the surface.
we could go on all day and of course theres differences
but I think there’s a lot more interchangeable parts between 17-22s while the 23s and beyond could use their own forum.
also if you have a real specific engine related question there are sections on her for the different engines already to have focused conversations.
who cares though, it won’t happen so it’s all just trivial
