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But now the current XLT is almost as nice as the previous KR trucks
and can’t we say that about your 19? That “we can’t believe how expensive it’s gotten compared to the same truck from 4 or 5 years prior?
When you paid 67k for yours some dude with a 2014 or 2015 was saying “I only paid 50k….couldn’t imagine paying almost 70k for a truck”
inflation is a bitch and we can all agree it’s be nice if everything was cheaper lol
and can’t we say that about your 19? That “we can’t believe how expensive it’s gotten compared to the same truck from 4 or 5 years prior?
When you paid 67k for yours some dude with a 2014 or 2015 was saying “I only paid 50k….couldn’t imagine paying almost 70k for a truck”
inflation is a bitch and we can all agree it’s be nice if everything was cheaper lol
As for year comparisons, as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I would take a '19 KR over a '23 XLT.
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Ford got wise to the passing of PCO and now tie it to an email that ties to the actual person. When you receive the PCO in an email, the dealer can look up your name in Vincent and find it (provided you previously purchased a Ford or have a Fordpass account). Ford no longer email blasts them.
One other thing I saw mentioned. The break down of MY. Other than body changes and transmissions, the 17-23 Super Duty is still the same truck. True now the 6.2 has been replaced with 6.8 and 7.3, and has a 10 speed, but overall, what works on a 17 still works on a 22 and might even work on a 23. It's not like when the 17 came out where it was a totally different truck to a 16, only the engine and trans remained the same, everything else was different.
Over the year the changes were so minor that you can still use wiring diagrams from a 17 on your 22 to find what you need to tap into. Majority of differences are cosmetic.
One other thing I saw mentioned. The break down of MY. Other than body changes and transmissions, the 17-23 Super Duty is still the same truck. True now the 6.2 has been replaced with 6.8 and 7.3, and has a 10 speed, but overall, what works on a 17 still works on a 22 and might even work on a 23. It's not like when the 17 came out where it was a totally different truck to a 16, only the engine and trans remained the same, everything else was different.
Over the year the changes were so minor that you can still use wiring diagrams from a 17 on your 22 to find what you need to tap into. Majority of differences are cosmetic.
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Dude! What did you get to replace the F-150?
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Oh yeah, a LOT better! Just remember to use the WDH cause it will still sway even if you don't need to transfer anything. Been there lived it! LOL
I traded Precious for a 19 F-450 so whatever you need on the 19 give me a shout maybe I can help
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Thanks, I have the Equalizer E4 and just set it up yesterday. I need a center console and some center stack vents, I think Obsidian, but I haven't pulled one yet to check. I have Katzkin laying out in the basement so some wrinkles will come out and a WatsonTech SYNC3 upgrade on the way. Then it's small stuff, remote start, tailgate assist, Starkey bed light kit. Took some weathertechs out because, well garbage and put some Husky Weatherbeaters in. Also going to use a SCT BDX to monitor the transmission and coolant temps. Installed a DeeZee bed mat over the Linex and a Tyger tonneau cover. Whatcha got? PM me here or there if you want.
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Wish my XLT was. I don't have: LED headlights, power pedals, power folding mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated seats, rear sliding glass, 110v power outlets, power seat, carpet, auto climate control, or a 8" screen. Absolutely nothing. It's basically a base XL truck with chrome grille. Very odd how stripped down this truck was for the 2019 model year when the competitors' trucks pretty much had most or all of these things on the mid level trim.
That sort of confirms what the poster said about how the newer XLT's are much more appointed than the older XLT's.
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I could tell you a funny story about that... as a licensed electrician working on pool equipment... but this probably isn't the right forum for that... 
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Wish my XLT was. I don't have: LED headlights, power pedals, power folding mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated seats, rear sliding glass, 110v power outlets, power seat, carpet, auto climate control, or a 8" screen. Absolutely nothing. It's basically a base XL truck with chrome grille. Very odd how stripped down this truck was for the 2019 model year when the competitors' trucks pretty much had most or all of these things on the mid level trim.
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My '99 XLT didn't really have much... just power windows, doors, and mirrors, cloth seats and carpet.
My '09 XL has the 'convenience package'... so it is, essentially, a base XLT (power windows and doors, chrome bumpers, power mirrors) with no carpet.
My 2023 STX splits the two, trim-wise, but has waaaaay more junk on it than either of those trucks... including cameras, Sync4, parking sensors. Some of it was built into the STX package (like 4WD...) and a little more was added options (mostly towing/hauling options) but a lot of it was just the base model truck... for better or worse.
Personally, I don't like all the added stuff. Take all that junk out... to include the 10-speed auto... and give me a basic truck, with power windows and doors, and a manual. I don't even care about carpet.
My '09 XL has the 'convenience package'... so it is, essentially, a base XLT (power windows and doors, chrome bumpers, power mirrors) with no carpet.
My 2023 STX splits the two, trim-wise, but has waaaaay more junk on it than either of those trucks... including cameras, Sync4, parking sensors. Some of it was built into the STX package (like 4WD...) and a little more was added options (mostly towing/hauling options) but a lot of it was just the base model truck... for better or worse.
Personally, I don't like all the added stuff. Take all that junk out... to include the 10-speed auto... and give me a basic truck, with power windows and doors, and a manual. I don't even care about carpet.
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Wish my XLT was. I don't have: LED headlights, power pedals, power folding mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated seats, rear sliding glass, 110v power outlets, power seat, carpet, auto climate control, or a 8" screen. Absolutely nothing. It's basically a base XL truck with chrome grille. Very odd how stripped down this truck was for the 2019 model year when the competitors' trucks pretty much had most or all of these things on the mid level trim.
