Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

ECM Rebuild

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 10, 2023 | 02:33 PM
  #31  
sandymane's Avatar
sandymane
Lead Driver
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 6,185
Likes: 633
From: Houston/Sugar Land
The first portion of the KOER test is for cylinder identification of the of the number of cylinders being tested. That is why I always get a 4 on my 460's and you got a 3 for the 4.9. Being batch fired the 4 and 3 cylinder identification is correct for our two motors. Perhaps when you got the 3 you assumed it needed a zero to make it a two digit code?
 
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2023 | 03:12 PM
  #32  
Red Rascal's Avatar
Red Rascal
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 128
Likes: 9
From: Louisville, Kentucky
Originally Posted by sandymane
The first portion of the KOER test is for cylinder identification of the of the number of cylinders being tested. That is why I always get a 4 on my 460's and you got a 3 for the 4.9. Being batch fired the 4 and 3 cylinder identification is correct for our two motors. Perhaps when you got the 3 you assumed it needed a zero to make it a two digit code?

I have no confidence in the KOER test I made. There was definoitely a 30 code BUT, I'm sure I conducted the test incorrectly and/or made the wrong evaluation. Subsequently posts by forum users, ria2005, show that 135 and 246 are batch fired injectors that would seem to invalidate the 30 code for an individual cylindee. It was a mistake in the code or more likely a mistake in interpretation. This is something I'm going to think about for the next few days.
 
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2023 | 10:05 AM
  #33  
wccjester's Avatar
wccjester
Trailering
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 17
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by OBSession05
ECM failure on these trucks are more likely than a person would think. I think you did the right thing just because if it wasn't failing yet it was going to eventually. My new ECM fixed the dozen of problems my truck had and also was showing signs of ECM failure. It had to be electrical because if it was something mechanical it would most likely be constant instead of coming and going. It's very easy to overlook the computer chasing down an issue and even though it may not seem like it can very much be the problem. All it has to do is send one wrong signal to the system because of the wrong voltage going through the computer and make the entire system get confused.
Can you elaborate on what issue the new ECM might have fixed?
 
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2023 | 11:04 AM
  #34  
OBSession05's Avatar
OBSession05
Laughing Gas
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 991
Likes: 317
Originally Posted by wccjester
Can you elaborate on what issue the new ECM might have fixed?
Seems to have maximized the performance. A great example is if you just got a wild hair and floored it once it was time to shift it'd jump into the next gear causing the entire truck to jerk really hard. After installing the new ECM once it's time to shift it actually pulls down the rpms before it goes into the next gear and you barely even notice it shifted. Also would start falling on itself at a stop in gear or not and now that has went away. I regret to inform everyone though that my torque converter and miss are back for round two. You may of seen my thread "Major issues with my 94 F150...again" but going to replace tps (throttle positioning sensor for those who don't know) and see if that fixes it. It did last time so going to put a MotorCraft tps on instead of the cheapo brand and see what it does. Moral of the story it seems to be actually catching itself and maximizing the performance as it should in the first place. Only thing that puzzles me still is after having this miss and loosing the torque converter randomly the computer gives the system pass every time with no trouble codes but probably another unrelated issue.
 
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2023 | 11:10 AM
  #35  
OBSession05's Avatar
OBSession05
Laughing Gas
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 991
Likes: 317
To also note before the ECM went dead dead the truck rpms would randomly shoot up to 2000 by itself and if you shut it off and let it sit for five minutes it was fine until it did it again. Before it was parked the truck started falling on itself and could barely keep running. You could have it floored and it wouldn't do a single thing except choke itself out. Once again I started it three hours later and everything was fine. I had to replace the ECM one way or another because a capacitor had leaked all over the motherboard and was about to break off.
 
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2023 | 01:11 PM
  #36  
wccjester's Avatar
wccjester
Trailering
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 17
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by OBSession05
To also note before the ECM went dead dead the truck rpms would randomly shoot up to 2000 by itself and if you shut it off and let it sit for five minutes it was fine until it did it again. Before it was parked the truck started falling on itself and could barely keep running. You could have it floored and it wouldn't do a single thing except choke itself out. Once again I started it three hours later and everything was fine. I had to replace the ECM one way or another because a capacitor had leaked all over the motherboard and was about to break off.
Nice! Well glad that the replacement fixed those issues. I dont want to junk myself my I am not experiencing any of the issues you are saying. I haven't gotten a chance to pull the ECM off yet to check any of the capacitors but I probably should do that soon just to make sure everything is doing what it should.
 
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2023 | 06:48 PM
  #37  
My4Fordtrucks's Avatar
My4Fordtrucks
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 12,811
Likes: 2,431
Originally Posted by OBSession05
Seems to have maximized the performance. A great example is if you just got a wild hair and floored it once it was time to shift it'd jump into the next gear causing the entire truck to jerk really hard. After installing the new ECM once it's time to shift it actually pulls down the rpms before it goes into the next gear and you barely even notice it shifted.
It should downshift hard depending on how much load is on the engine and what gear it was downshifting from then to. Fourth to second is a big jump. I’ve never seen the rpms get pulled down before shifting unless the current gear wasn’t sufficient to keep the current speed so that meant you were also slowing down as the rpms dropped. The fact that the computer did not fix your original problem means that the computer was not the solution. Just as I believe the computer is not the issue with Red Rascal’s truck.
 
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2023 | 09:39 PM
  #38  
OBSession05's Avatar
OBSession05
Laughing Gas
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 991
Likes: 317
Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
It should downshift hard depending on how much load is on the engine and what gear it was downshifting from then to. Fourth to second is a big jump. I’ve never seen the rpms get pulled down before shifting unless the current gear wasn’t sufficient to keep the current speed so that meant you were also slowing down as the rpms dropped. The fact that the computer did not fix your original problem means that the computer was not the solution. Just as I believe the computer is not the issue with Red Rascal’s truck.
Truck smoothed out the shifting is what I mean in simple terms and it should never go from 4th to 2nd at over 50mph. No I was not slowing down. Yes the computer didn't solve my problem completely but all I was saying was to not overlook it and investigate it. Takes like fifteen minutes to pull out the computer and look over the motherboard. All I was trying to do was to try to help out and tell him one of the many things it could be. Not looking for an argument and just giving any advice I have.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-2

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-4

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-8

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 12, 2023 | 06:05 AM
  #39  
My4Fordtrucks's Avatar
My4Fordtrucks
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 12,811
Likes: 2,431
Originally Posted by OBSession05
… it should never go from 4th to 2nd at over 50mph.
Yes, It will.
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2023 | 04:40 PM
  #40  
OBSession05's Avatar
OBSession05
Laughing Gas
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 991
Likes: 317
Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Yes, It will.
I don't know what setup and gearing you have but maybe yours does...mine never has. If it shifted from 4th into 2nd over 50 mph my engine would be over 5000 RPMS. Never in my entire ownership of this truck has it ever gone past 4500 RPMS and that's almost near impossible for me to get it there. Even floored it always wants to shift at 4000 RPMS. The transmission also shouldn't jerk the truck every gear it goes into. If I knew how to put vids on here I'd show the before and after results. With the new ECM you barely notice the shift and before the new ECM it'd shift hard into the next gear enough to make you move in your seat. I also know it shouldn't shift hard because a mechanic friend of mine who went to one of the best colleges in the states said it shouldn't either. Once again I'm just trying to help Red Rascal with my experiences. This thread is about ECMs after all...
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Red Rascal
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
3
Mar 23, 2022 03:25 PM
bigred66
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Aug 25, 2021 10:39 PM
DevilDocTater
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
8
Nov 25, 2011 05:34 PM
coldnorthpole
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
6
Sep 28, 2006 10:55 PM
computerbob
Performance & General Engine Building
1
Dec 12, 2000 04:29 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:10 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE