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I have a 2022 F450 with 8300 on the clock as of today. Back in October after I first bought the truck, I did my first oil change at like 1100 or 1200 miles and switched to Rotella T6 5W/40. I didn't bother to send off a sample of the factory oil since it had so few of miles but now I wish I had. Recently, I did my second change with 6610 miles on the oil, I was shooting for 5k intervals but had to make a trip from Nashville to Oklahoma to pick up a couple of cows, so I went slightly over what I wanted to do for the oil change. I took the sample, sent it off, and then a couple weeks later I got the report.
Now, even though Blackstone isn't completely freaking out over the sample and trying to be positive, I can't help but to be slightly concerned. So I sent a copy of it to ARod for his thoughts and he agreed that the sample was very concerning. I will do what what he suggests and do another oil change at 10k and do another sample to see if the materials are improving. The truck isn't daily driven and mostly pulls a cattle trailer and my 19k 5th wheel toy hauler. I have a high idle switch for the rare times it is idling for longer than a couple of minutes so it wouldn't have any excess idle time causing any fuel dilution.
Anyone else have a similar concerning report from Blackstone?
On a new engine I am not sure I would panic yet, check the next oil change and go from there.
^^^ Ditto, you are seeing break-in wear given the low miles on the engine. The 5w40 did shear down to a 30 top weight but that in and of itself isn't too concerning, especially with the high flashpoint of the oil. It didn't dilute down on you.
Personally I would run another 5k or so OCI and sample again to see what they came back with, I can nearly promise you it will come down but will probably still be higher than a more seasoned engine.
I'm not worried, yet.
If this was a 30 or 40,000 mile old engine, I'd say you have problems. Iron is high at 80 for a 6k run.
At 8k, you are not broken in yet.See what the next oil change gives you, and go from there. You do have evidence of oil changes and wear to confront Ford with if you need to.
Just my opinion, but 1k, 4k, 7k, 10k changes on a new truck with conventional oil is still the best way to break in and flush out all the stuff generated from it. Then follow the OLM if you run synthetic, or 5k conventional after.
I've seen conventional 15w40 hold viscosity better than this round of T6 5w40. I do agree no harm from the viscosity drop though: factory fill and lots of miles on 30 weights in the 6.7 .
This all makes me feel a little better. I guess when they mentioned chrome in the sample and could possibly be from ring wear, I guess thats what concerned me. I'll change it again at 10k just for a "flush" and see if it improves.
Some of it could also be when the sample was taken. If right after the plug being removed, pan residue could be flushed out with it. All the stuff that layers in the pan since the last oil change. I try to get it right about mid way through the drain. I sent mine in 2 weeks ago, haven't seen it yet. Wondering why it is taking longer than years past.
Just my opinion, but 1k, 4k, 7k, 10k changes on a new truck with conventional oil is still the best way to break in and flush out all the stuff generated from it. Then follow the OLM if you run synthetic, or 5k conventional after.
I see so many different opinions on OCIs, break in, and types of oil. First I have heard of this one. I never know who is actually right? None of the opinions look wrong but they can’t all be right. Thanks.
^^^ Ditto, you are seeing break-in wear given the low miles on the engine. The 5w40 did shear down to a 30 top weight but that in and of itself isn't too concerning, especially with the high flashpoint of the oil. It didn't dilute down on you.
I plan to have one of these done at my next oil change, it will be my first time having an oil analysis done. How do you determine the oil weight? I see numbers in the 60's in his results.
I plan to have one of these done at my next oil change, it will be my first time having an oil analysis done. How do you determine the oil weight? I see numbers in the 60's in his results.
The SUS Viscosity and cSt viscosity lines:
SAE J300 has cut offs for high temp flow of the oil. A 11.64cSt at temp (100*C) falls into the 30 weight range
Oil can thin out from shear forces (see HPOP's on 7.3 and 6.0 PSD) or fuel dilution amongst other things, the former is better than the latter.
Some of it could also be when the sample was taken. If right after the plug being removed, pan residue could be flushed out with it. All the stuff that layers in the pan since the last oil change. I try to get it right about mid way through the drain. I sent mine in 2 weeks ago, haven't seen it yet. Wondering why it is taking longer than years past.
Yeah mine was taken around mid stream. I think my sample took about 2 -2.5 weeks to come back
Here are my last two oil changes. I plan on doing one more at my next 7500 mile interval to see how it looks then be done with them.
Just curious how many miles on the truck?
Side note, interesting how similar Valvoline and Shell are here.... Rotella kicks it old school with the huge slug of calcium while valvoline swaps out some calcium for higher magnesium levels and a similar swap with moly and boron but all in all not very different. I am guessing rotella T6 was the previous run? Your fuel levels are a bit higher than the OP's. Nothing concerning but a bit higher.
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Side note, interesting how similar Valvoline and Shell are here.... Rotella kicks it old school with the huge slug of calcium while valvoline swaps out some calcium for higher magnesium levels and a similar swap with moly and boron but all in all not very different. I am guessing rotella T6 was the previous run? Your fuel levels are a bit higher than the OP's. Nothing concerning but a bit higher.
Right now im around 28k ish. I'm running T6 this time as a comparison to Valvoline. Oh and something else im doing this go around is letting all the regens happen as the truck initiates instead of strictly doing OCR's.
I have a 2022 F450 with 8300 on the clock as of today. Back in October after I first bought the truck, I did my first oil change at like 1100 or 1200 miles and switched to Rotella T6 5W/40. I didn't bother to send off a sample of the factory oil since it had so few of miles but now I wish I had. Recently, I did my second change with 6610 miles on the oil, I was shooting for 5k intervals but had to make a trip from Nashville to Oklahoma to pick up a couple of cows, so I went slightly over what I wanted to do for the oil change. I took the sample, sent it off, and then a couple weeks later I got the report.
Now, even though Blackstone isn't completely freaking out over the sample and trying to be positive, I can't help but to be slightly concerned. So I sent a copy of it to ARod for his thoughts and he agreed that the sample was very concerning. I will do what what he suggests and do another oil change at 10k and do another sample to see if the materials are improving. The truck isn't daily driven and mostly pulls a cattle trailer and my 19k 5th wheel toy hauler. I have a high idle switch for the rare times it is idling for longer than a couple of minutes so it wouldn't have any excess idle time causing any fuel dilution.
Anyone else have a similar concerning report from Blackstone?
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