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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 12:20 PM
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My SD has been in the body shop twice for hail damage. The first was tennis ball sized hail. The hood was replaced, and other dents were corrected. Windshield was replaced, plastic B pillar covers were replaced. 6 months later we had grape sized hail. All dents from the grape sized hail were corrected.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2023 | 12:56 PM
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. . .Paintless dent removal isn't gonna fix it, might make it look "better" but it'll always have ripples to it. that
Sounds like you might need to try a more qualified PDR tech. Paintless Dent Removal is only as good as the tech performing the work. I've seen hail tech's with "many" years of experience that can't even finish 1 dent to 100%. I've also seen some with only 2 years of experience that have that magic PDR touch and can make almost anything disappear.

BTW, My son owns a PDR shop, I go & check up on him and the crew daily - You know, to make sure their doing it right -- bigfootpdr.com
 
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Old Jul 27, 2023 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Florit17
Sounds like you might need to try a more qualified PDR tech. Paintless Dent Removal is only as good as the tech performing the work. I've seen hail tech's with "many" years of experience that can't even finish 1 dent to 100%. I've also seen some with only 2 years of experience that have that magic PDR touch and can make almost anything disappear.

BTW, My son owns a PDR shop, I go & check up on him and the crew daily - You know, to make sure their doing it right -- bigfootpdr.com
Couldn't agree more.
We have 3 of them around us.
1 is useless and can't fix much of anything.
Another is pretty good and do decent work.
But then we have a guy who is like a magician, and he can make a hail, baseball, or what dent disappear, and nobody will ever be able to find it.
A few of my company pickups had hail damage, and several employees vehicles to, when he was done it was impossible to see anything wrong. My mustang took a baseball to the hood while parked at a ball game, but after a visit to him, there was not a trace.
I might have ran into my pickup practicing how to ride my one wheel 😁 leaving a dent in the box side. But when he was done with my pickup it looked brand new, and I would dare anyone to tell me which side was fixed.
The wife has put a few dings in her Jeep, after his magical hands are finished working on it, I'm unable to see it.

OP find a good paintless shop, drop by for them to have a look, the worst it costs you is 10 minutes of your time.
But don't believe anyone who tells you that all hail damage is unable to be repaired, I've seen it many times.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 08:25 AM
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I'm not saying PDR can't fix a couple dents and make it look good. We originally had a guy we'd hire to come to our body shop for small stuff like that, then the owner bought some tools and we started doing it ourselves. PDR isn't going to fix a large flat panel like a hood or roof with dozens of hail strikes. Once the metal gets stretched, you can't shrink it back to size without enough heat that it will mess up the paint, not to mention trying to shrink/stretch modern body panels is a losing situation for a shop, which is why they either get replaced, or filled with mud after hammering it out close enough.

Also, in my professional experience, what the majority of people think is a good body work repair..isn't.The shop i worked in was mostly quick insurance jobs and auction flips to sell, so it was fast and dirty body work most of the time. I always thought the customer was gonna say something about the ripple/wave/low spot/etc. I could see as plain as day, because i was trained to look for it, but they almost always thought it was perfect.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by speedfreak78
I'm not saying PDR can't fix a couple dents and make it look good. We originally had a guy we'd hire to come to our body shop for small stuff like that, then the owner bought some tools and we started doing it ourselves. PDR isn't going to fix a large flat panel like a hood or roof with dozens of hail strikes. Once the metal gets stretched, you can't shrink it back to size without enough heat that it will mess up the paint, not to mention trying to shrink/stretch modern body panels is a losing situation for a shop, which is why they either get replaced, or filled with mud after hammering it out close enough.

Also, in my professional experience, what the majority of people think is a good body work repair..isn't.The shop i worked in was mostly quick insurance jobs and auction flips to sell, so it was fast and dirty body work most of the time. I always thought the customer was gonna say something about the ripple/wave/low spot/etc. I could see as plain as day, because i was trained to look for it, but they almost always thought it was perfect.
My experience is opposite. PDR was able to perfectly repair my hood and roof panels with dozens of hail dents, caused by the grape sized hail storm.

The storm with the tennis ball sized hail had far fewer but much bigger dents. The PDR crew took one look at my hood and stated they couldn't fix it.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by speedfreak78
I. . .PDR isn't going to fix a large flat panel like a hood or roof with dozens of hail strikes. Once the metal gets stretched, you can't shrink it back to size without enough heat that it will mess up the paint, not to mention trying to shrink/stretch modern body panels is a losing situation for a shop, which is why they either get replaced, or filled with mud after hammering it out close enough. . .
The tools & techniques available to todays PDR techs are far superior to what was available even a few years ago. I have seen PDR shrink stretched, oil-canning metal on a flat panel - without the use of a hot box. Sure, there's going to be damage that is not a PDR candidate to start with, but with the right technician, PDR can remove dings, dents and collision damage to 100%, even on roofs and hoods with 100's of hail dents.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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The owner of a local body shop, who I’ve know for many years says he can make it 100% with PDR. I’m going to go this route, as I prefer to keep my original paint intact. He says if I’m not completely happy with the outcome, he will do whatever is necessary to make it perfect. Looks to be about $6-7k worth of damage going this route. He repaired 2 dents on my mustang a few years ago while I watched, you can’t tell they were ever there. Hopefully it works on the aluminum SD.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 11:14 AM
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Years ago they used to use dry ice for dent removal, not sure if they still use it.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 06:39 PM
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Years ago they used to use dry ice for dent removal, not sure if they still use it.
You stole my line. in fact airlines still use dry ice to pull hail dents out of aluminum airplanes. Don't know the details, all I ever did was aircraft electrical.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 09:03 PM
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You stole my line. in fact airlines still use dry ice to pull hail dents out of aluminum airplanes. Don't know the details, all I ever did was aircraft electrical.
Here is a couple of links to websites with the details.

https://www.autos.com/auto-repair/ho...s-with-dry-ice

https://penguindryice.com/removing-dents/

https://cardetailingart.com/dry-ice-dent-removal/
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 03:33 PM
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My 2022 F-350 6k miles received some substantial hail damage last Thursday. The hood, roof and tonneau cover are trashed. Platinum chrome around windows is dented, roof ditch molding is broken and every planet has small dents except the tailgate. No light or windows were broken and surprisingly my pano glass roof held up. The truck is star white and I really don’t want to have it repainted. I had some minor damage 2 years ago to my 2020 f150 and now see bubbling paint/ aluminum where the repair was done. I plan on keeping my SD for a while and want to make sure this repair is done properly. I was thinking maybe paint less dent removal on the panels, but I don’t think this is possible with the hood and upper door frames. I really don’t want a lot of filler on the truck. Anyone with experience in handling a hail damage repair that may have some wisdom? Thank you
Hi just viewing your post . How did you get on with your truck. I am interested in a hail damaged F250 or F350 diesel to buy
 
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