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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 07:38 PM
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Here is a snipit of an email I received.

 
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 07:56 PM
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Iwho are the pinheads steering that ship?
i think most fingers point to china
 
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LarryH.
It’s almost an insult that Ford can not build and deliver the top trims of their flagship vehicle. We are talking about 100 hundred thousand dollar freaking pickup trucks. And buyers lined up from coast to coast.

How can a business with the power of a huge company like FoMoCo not capitalize upon this market.

Is it intentional? That would seem stupid.
If it’s not intentional, who are the pinheads steering that ship?
It is the group that is trying to sell the idea that you will be much happier with nothing... The reason ALL of these large corps are going woke is money. They use outfits like Blackrock to fund their business activities and those crooks require them to bow to ESG ideals.

No way it ends well for any of them selling out. People are jumping ship to GM for goodness sake... Not that GM wont follow suit shortly too..
 
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 10:11 PM
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When did they tell you this? I was emailing with them yesterday and they said Monday
I am couple days behind you in comms it looks like.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
It is the group that is trying to sell the idea that you will be much happier with nothing... The reason ALL of these large corps are going woke is money. They use outfits like Blackrock to fund their business activities and those crooks require them to bow to ESG ideals.

No way it ends well for any of them selling out. People are jumping ship to GM for goodness sake... Not that GM wont follow suit shortly too..
I’m seriously going to look at gmc and ram(vomit) for my next truck. I buy a new one every 2 or so years and fords constant wokeness and partnering with Chinese companies is sickening. Stupid Farley really is the “blacksheep” of his family. Ford needs a taste of what InBev is feeling so they drop the global wokeness and focus on what got them where they are. I chose ford 25 years ago for no reason really but have been 100% ford diesel pickups since then. I know the superduty line better than the average consumer and know what to i am buying. I know nothing of any other trucks, mainly gm/ram but am going to see where they stand and what issues they have. Cant be loyal to a company thats not the company you were being loyal to.

My current truck is fine. The heated steering wheel stopped working and just dont want to deal with rigmarole of getting it fixed right now, my upper oil pan is leaking good but definitely dont want to do a cab off right now. I have a 150k warranty and will get both fixed so ford at least pays for their issues. I’m at 80k now so another year…I will say as with the building issue, this truck was ordered and delivered in 6 weeks. But man, people are sure going through it on ordering stuff. I know the the Louisville plant is pumping them out cause my kid runs a semi there all day everyday delivering parts from fords satellite companies.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 09:31 AM
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I'm no brand loyalist, but as far as HD/work trucks go, but IMO, Ford has had the best truck out there, with some engine exceptions, for better than 50 years now and hope they can fix these issues, mainly cause i can't afford a new one and need the used market to come down.

Seems like it should be illegal to promise customers a product, take down payments, then not deliver? Sounds like a scam to generate millions of dollars in interest for a company. And it's not like companies didn't know parts shortages are a part of the global trade situation right now and probably for the foreseeable future, so maybe adjust your business strategy? No more orders, or extremely limited orders once parts are secured, then just build what you can with what's on hand and put it online or just stock dealer lots until you can secure supplier/parts to fulfill custom orders.

Theoretically, if a company wanted to go from a franchise based business to direct sales, making the individual franchises look incompetent would be a good way to accelerate that.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroo
I’m seriously going to look at gmc and ram(vomit) for my next truck. I buy a new one every 2 or so years and fords constant wokeness and partnering with Chinese companies is sickening. Stupid Farley really is the “blacksheep” of his family. Ford needs a taste of what InBev is feeling so they drop the global wokeness and focus on what got them where they are. I chose ford 25 years ago for no reason really but have been 100% ford diesel pickups since then. I know the superduty line better than the average consumer and know what to i am buying. I know nothing of any other trucks, mainly gm/ram but am going to see where they stand and what issues they have. Cant be loyal to a company thats not the company you were being loyal to.

My current truck is fine. The heated steering wheel stopped working and just dont want to deal with rigmarole of getting it fixed right now, my upper oil pan is leaking good but definitely dont want to do a cab off right now. I have a 150k warranty and will get both fixed so ford at least pays for their issues. I’m at 80k now so another year…I will say as with the building issue, this truck was ordered and delivered in 6 weeks. But man, people are sure going through it on ordering stuff. I know the the Louisville plant is pumping them out cause my kid runs a semi there all day everyday delivering parts from fords satellite companies.

Well I really like my 2022 but brand loyal is not a thing for me. I always check the market, weigh the pros and cons, and you used to be able to go drive examples before deciding. Seems that is finally getting a little better, there are new trucks on most lots around here now. Fortunately my truck has been problem free so far. I will keep it around until that changes or my bank account allows for a wild hair purchase. I am hoping it lasts long enough to weather the idiotic covid excuses and insane ESG world pushing BEVs on consumers. Otherwise I am happy to seek out nice low mile used vehicles. As it stands today, neither of the other two really offer the configuration I prefer, Ford still does.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 09:39 AM
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Those damn kids.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroo
I’m seriously going to look at gmc and ram(vomit) for my next truck. I buy a new one every 2 or so years and fords constant wokeness and partnering with Chinese companies is sickening. Stupid Farley really is the “blacksheep” of his family. Ford needs a taste of what InBev is feeling so they drop the global wokeness and focus on what got them where they are. I chose ford 25 years ago for no reason really but have been 100% ford diesel pickups since then. I know the superduty line better than the average consumer and know what to i am buying. I know nothing of any other trucks, mainly gm/ram but am going to see where they stand and what issues they have. Cant be loyal to a company thats not the company you were being loyal to.

My current truck is fine. The heated steering wheel stopped working and just dont want to deal with rigmarole of getting it fixed right now, my upper oil pan is leaking good but definitely dont want to do a cab off right now. I have a 150k warranty and will get both fixed so ford at least pays for their issues. I’m at 80k now so another year…I will say as with the building issue, this truck was ordered and delivered in 6 weeks. But man, people are sure going through it on ordering stuff. I know the the Louisville plant is pumping them out cause my kid runs a semi there all day everyday delivering parts from fords satellite companies.
Man is it refreshing to hear y'all understand what is really going on but I got to tell you, if Ford is currently the Bud Light of trucks, GM is the Target and Northface combined of trucks. The reason they can produce a vehicle over Ford right now is because they have been sucking the female dick of this movement for much longer than Ford and have the full backing of the investment community to fund whatever they want to do. Ford is playing catch the rainbow catch-up.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 09:48 AM
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Man is it refreshing to hear y'all understand what is really going on but I got to tell you, if Ford is currently the Bud Light of trucks, GM is the Target and Northface combined of trucks. The reason they can produce a vehicle over Ford right now is because they have been sucking the female dick of this movement for much longer than Ford and have the full backing of the investment community to fund whatever they want to do. Ford is playing catch the rainbow catch-up.
Exactly, goes way back to when we bailed out GM and Chrysler, Ford had fixed their issues before the bailouts and skipped that round. GM, government motors, has been on the tit a long time.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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It's not a political decision, it's a business decision. A global company isn't going to cater to just one country over THE REST OF THE WORLD, based off local social issues. It isn't a big enough chunk to matter in the long run. They've already factored in losing a chunk of customers to changing business plans, so protest all you want, doesn't matter to them. They wouldn't have openly changed their practices if they though the gains didn't outweigh the losses, they would've stayed silent/neutral. There is no loyalty from a corporation, just means to more profit.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroo
I’m seriously going to look at gmc and ram(vomit) for my next truck. I buy a new one every 2 or so years and fords constant wokeness and partnering with Chinese companies is sickening. Stupid Farley really is the “blacksheep” of his family. Ford needs a taste of what InBev is feeling so they drop the global wokeness and focus on what got them where they are. I chose ford 25 years ago for no reason really but have been 100% ford diesel pickups since then. I know the superduty line better than the average consumer and know what to i am buying. I know nothing of any other trucks, mainly gm/ram but am going to see where they stand and what issues they have. Cant be loyal to a company thats not the company you were being loyal to.

My current truck is fine. The heated steering wheel stopped working and just dont want to deal with rigmarole of getting it fixed right now, my upper oil pan is leaking good but definitely dont want to do a cab off right now. I have a 150k warranty and will get both fixed so ford at least pays for their issues. I’m at 80k now so another year…I will say as with the building issue, this truck was ordered and delivered in 6 weeks. But man, people are sure going through it on ordering stuff. I know the the Louisville plant is pumping them out cause my kid runs a semi there all day everyday delivering parts from fords satellite companies.
i want to clarify something i said, KTP is shut down and has been for 3 weeks. Supposed to get back up and running this week. LAP is running though..checked with my kid just now. He runs load of parts from fords parts contractors to the plant, he gets a lot of overtime but said now they have been cutting his ot off.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by speedfreak78
It's not a political decision, it's a business decision. A global company isn't going to cater to just one country over THE REST OF THE WORLD, based off local social issues. It isn't a big enough chunk to matter in the long run. They've already factored in losing a chunk of customers to changing business plans, so protest all you want, doesn't matter to them. They wouldn't have openly changed their practices if they though the gains didn't outweigh the losses, they would've stayed silent/neutral. There is no loyalty from a corporation, just means to more profit.
my choices dont need to matter to ford, just me.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2023 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroo
my choices dont need to matter to ford, just me.
How do you feel about US citizens who live overseas but buy F450 Limiteds from US dealerships?

Do we have your permission sir?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2023 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
Exactly, goes way back to when we bailed out GM and Chrysler, Ford had fixed their issues before the bailouts and skipped that round. GM, government motors, has been on the tit a long time.
*teet (the government one)

 
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