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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 07:29 AM
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Not worth it to me because I already know im using good clean diesel with the last fuel filter set change... Primary filter came out real clean... But i do use K100D additive every tank... No matter what. But that's me...
I've been using Howe's Diesel Treat since I bought the truck used almost a year ago. Right after buying it, I had the dealership change the oil and fuel filters, as I had no idea when the previous owner did so.

Anyway, 15K later (two weekends ago) I swapped the fuel filters after routine 5K changing of the oil. I was expecting a filthy primary filter (based upon what pics I've seen posted on the forum from others), but was amazed at how clean it looked. Appeared new, compared to the replacement. Makes me wonder if fuel additives do indeed help, but I have no baseline from which to compare (wish I would've requested to see the one the dealership replaced, now).

In any case, just throwing my own experience out there, for what it's worth...
 
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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 02:57 PM
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The primary water separation/filter on mine was clean as the new one with 56K on it, the under hood one though was dirty black. I think temperature fluctuations play a big part in that. Clean fuel plays a part in the filters too, always use top tier from truck stops with high turn around. Hot Shots is also used, been using it for a while now after watching Prject Farm test them all.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2023 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
The primary water separation/filter on mine was clean as the new one with 56K on it, the under hood one though was dirty black. I think temperature fluctuations play a big part in that. Clean fuel plays a part in the filters too, always use top tier from truck stops with high turn around. Hot Shots is also used, been using it for a while now after watching Prject Farm test them all.

do you have a 2017 or later?

with 2017’s and later there is some meeting of injector rail return fuel and engine bay fuel filter . No check valves. Nothing to stop injector blow by in the return fuel in the high pressure stream to push its way in front of the filter element and once it repasses the filter element…painting the filter element carbon black. There is nothing to change the high pressure return fuel to a pressure less than the lift pump pressure…so the return fuel from the injectors and the carbon blow by…move freely.

at least that’s what I think.


 
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Old Jul 14, 2023 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
do you have a 2017 or later?

with 2017’s and later there is some meeting of injector rail return fuel and engine bay fuel filter . No check valves. Nothing to stop injector blow by in the return fuel in the high pressure stream to push its way in front of the filter element and once it repasses the filter element…painting the filter element carbon black. There is nothing to change the high pressure return fuel to a pressure less than the lift pump pressure…so the return fuel from the injectors and the carbon blow by…move freely.

at least that’s what I think.
You bring up a good point... I'm wondering if that's what turned your S&S filter media black? Was the fuel schitty and black also?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2023 | 01:25 PM
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That makes sense. The engine top filter has the bypass that goes to the return line where the pre-17 does not. I had to go out and look at the drivers side fuel rail to find it, but I see where the fuel return is, which looks like part of the fuel pressure regulation system at the rear of the rail. I can see if the return pressure is greater than the lift pump pressure causing regurgitation of the fuel and know about how the fuel compresses into carbon when under extreme pressure, so that would explain the black filter.

 
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Old Jul 18, 2023 | 06:59 PM
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Happened to stumble on this, thought some might find it interesting. If it has already been posted elsewhere I apologize and will delete it.

 
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Old Jul 18, 2023 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
S and S DCR pump when it fails

Why would you wait for the CP4 to fail first and then install the DCR? If, you install the DCR before then you don't have to worry about adding the Disaster Prevention Kit. Just a question.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2023 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WK15
Why would you wait for the CP4 to fail first and then install the DCR? If, you install the DCR before then you don't have to worry about adding the Disaster Prevention Kit. Just a question.
fritz already has the DPK installed...
 
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