View Poll Results: Do all men cheat?
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From sinjin, in a recently vanquished thread:
Granted, there was more to the quote than I snipped, but since that partucular subject matter tends to kill threads rather quickly AND it was irelevent to the basic premise, I left it out.
Let's put this idea to a vote, do you think men in general have a problem with monogamy?, or just some men.
Men have a problem with monogamy
Let's put this idea to a vote, do you think men in general have a problem with monogamy?, or just some men.
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The poll is a bit flawed. I believe all men are tempted meaning it might not present an emotional conflict. Some resist only for the sake of their partner. Some men actually do cheat. Some men have few offers.
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I guess this falls under the heading of "General Morality" but I fit another catagory Sinjin.
Having been in a position where I literally walked in on a cheating spouse in the act, I have given this issue some at length thought. I came up with a philosophy based on what I consider fairness . . you judge for yourself;
"If I ever catch another man with my wife I will take his long term health away from him."
This was the realization part after the incident. I do believe it was a realization of a truth within my genetic being - a self-truth if you will. Thus, it is the foundation for my principal:
"I could not live with myself if I was guilty of the same "crime" - yet sentanced another man to a life in the vegetable garden."
The "oppurtunity" has presented it's self - I spend a great deal of time in offices full of women that love slightly wild looking guys with long hair and cowboy boots. Especially ones that carry Haliburton briefcases full of sophisticated gizmos
I have NEVER gone any further than "dang, she's cuuuute" in my mind or my mannerisim. The consiquences sacre me too much.
Such is life in a Fuzzy mind
Having been in a position where I literally walked in on a cheating spouse in the act, I have given this issue some at length thought. I came up with a philosophy based on what I consider fairness . . you judge for yourself;
"If I ever catch another man with my wife I will take his long term health away from him."
This was the realization part after the incident. I do believe it was a realization of a truth within my genetic being - a self-truth if you will. Thus, it is the foundation for my principal:
"I could not live with myself if I was guilty of the same "crime" - yet sentanced another man to a life in the vegetable garden."
The "oppurtunity" has presented it's self - I spend a great deal of time in offices full of women that love slightly wild looking guys with long hair and cowboy boots. Especially ones that carry Haliburton briefcases full of sophisticated gizmos
I have NEVER gone any further than "dang, she's cuuuute" in my mind or my mannerisim. The consiquences sacre me too much.
Such is life in a Fuzzy mind
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well, sinjin just "disclaimered" his statement, to where i now agree with it.
if a man has never had the "thought" of another woman sexually while in a relationship...he is a better man than i.
the situation HAS presented itself to me on more than one occasion, and thankfully i made the right choice. I would, and will NEVER cheat on my wife, no matter what the oppertunity is.
if she cheated on me (highly unlikely), i would take appropriate steps that when i had another woman, it would not be cheating, as we would no longer be.
if a man has never had the "thought" of another woman sexually while in a relationship...he is a better man than i.
the situation HAS presented itself to me on more than one occasion, and thankfully i made the right choice. I would, and will NEVER cheat on my wife, no matter what the oppertunity is.
if she cheated on me (highly unlikely), i would take appropriate steps that when i had another woman, it would not be cheating, as we would no longer be.
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Originally posted by sinjin
The poll is a bit flawed. I believe all men are tempted meaning it might not present an emotional conflict. Some resist only for the sake of their partner. Some men actually do cheat. Some men have few offers.
The poll is a bit flawed. I believe all men are tempted meaning it might not present an emotional conflict. Some resist only for the sake of their partner. Some men actually do cheat. Some men have few offers.
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...Ive always find it interesting that many people will not blame the cheating spouse, instead they tend to rather inflict punishment on the person the spouse is cheating with...
IE My ex-wife always threatened to "serve her eyeballs to me on a silver platter if she ever caught me cheating with another woman..." In a morbid sense its almost a win-win situation.
Personally, I choose another tact...If I catch her cheating, I simply turn around and walk away...Obviously she not worth the energy, and it takes 2 to tango.
...If she is not a willing partner, well then that changes everything.
...If she's a willing partner with someone who knows us to be married, then I march them both outside buck naked at the point of my shotgun and parade them both around the nieghborhood to show all the world the true **** that she is...Then I'll return home and lock the doors after disposing her belongings in the street...
Do men cheat? I'd say that most are tempted at some point in time but for the most part we rein ourselves in...so to speak.
Then again...My current G/F believes that chat rooms, strip clubs, pornography, dancing and car-pool buddies, when she is not involved is cheating....so go figure...
IE My ex-wife always threatened to "serve her eyeballs to me on a silver platter if she ever caught me cheating with another woman..." In a morbid sense its almost a win-win situation.
Personally, I choose another tact...If I catch her cheating, I simply turn around and walk away...Obviously she not worth the energy, and it takes 2 to tango.
...If she is not a willing partner, well then that changes everything.
...If she's a willing partner with someone who knows us to be married, then I march them both outside buck naked at the point of my shotgun and parade them both around the nieghborhood to show all the world the true **** that she is...Then I'll return home and lock the doors after disposing her belongings in the street...
Do men cheat? I'd say that most are tempted at some point in time but for the most part we rein ourselves in...so to speak.
Then again...My current G/F believes that chat rooms, strip clubs, pornography, dancing and car-pool buddies, when she is not involved is cheating....so go figure...
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One is deffinatly enough for me.
I to have walked in on my signifigant other cheating on me. I took back my car, tossed her stuff out on the lawn, and changed the locks. She tried to come back to me saying it would never happen again, I told her to take a walk and havent spoken with her since.
The same would happen if my current girl was to cheat on me. If you cannot trust the person that you are with then how can you have any sort of relationship. I belive cheating to be a painfull breach of trust, thus I would never do it.
I know people have their faults. I am not perfect myself. I am willing to forgive just about anything except a breach of trust. As far as I am concerened cheating is about the most low down dirty rotten thing that you can do to your signifagant other.
Keep in mind the is just the opinoin of a small town farmer that busts his hump day in and day out and works two other jobs just to make a decent life.
I to have walked in on my signifigant other cheating on me. I took back my car, tossed her stuff out on the lawn, and changed the locks. She tried to come back to me saying it would never happen again, I told her to take a walk and havent spoken with her since.
The same would happen if my current girl was to cheat on me. If you cannot trust the person that you are with then how can you have any sort of relationship. I belive cheating to be a painfull breach of trust, thus I would never do it.
I know people have their faults. I am not perfect myself. I am willing to forgive just about anything except a breach of trust. As far as I am concerened cheating is about the most low down dirty rotten thing that you can do to your signifagant other.
Keep in mind the is just the opinoin of a small town farmer that busts his hump day in and day out and works two other jobs just to make a decent life.
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Unless the Pope has me completely fooled, only the second answer can be correct. When I was single (a loooooong time ago), I felt that I was like mayonaise, created to be spread around and that women were like underware, needed to be changed regularly. My wife convinced me that I was in error, something she said about waking up with a high shrill voice.
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Hm, I don't really understand the question.
Funny, but I have been thinking about the same thing lately. Is polygamy really such a bad thing?
If I had a wife who was engaged in extracurricular activities, it wouldn't bother me very much. On the other hand, if my wife disagreed with my political views, I am pretty sure I would leave. That wouldn't fulfill my expectations of a supportive spouse. I want total comitment to what I want.
Yet, I am not even sure about the institution of marriage, period. For myself that, is. I have a feeling I am going to be stuck in a dead-end situation with no possibility of getting out. My expectations are very, very high and thus far they not been fullfilled and likely won't.
But given the choice of solitude and misery, I will take the former any day.
Back to the topic, is polygamy a moral evil?
Funny, but I have been thinking about the same thing lately. Is polygamy really such a bad thing?
If I had a wife who was engaged in extracurricular activities, it wouldn't bother me very much. On the other hand, if my wife disagreed with my political views, I am pretty sure I would leave. That wouldn't fulfill my expectations of a supportive spouse. I want total comitment to what I want.
Yet, I am not even sure about the institution of marriage, period. For myself that, is. I have a feeling I am going to be stuck in a dead-end situation with no possibility of getting out. My expectations are very, very high and thus far they not been fullfilled and likely won't.
But given the choice of solitude and misery, I will take the former any day.
Back to the topic, is polygamy a moral evil?
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Originally posted by carpe_diem
. . . Back to the topic, is polygamy a moral evil?
. . . Back to the topic, is polygamy a moral evil?
"Yes. But only if you get caught."
(That last part just got added in the last several years - before that it was simply "Yes")
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I voted No. I know I haven't cheated, never will.
BUT, I agree with sinjin.
Are we talking on a biological/physical scale? Or our "emotional" one.
IMHO, biologically we aren't much different than the average male lion. We are attracted to most anything, and if we could, we'd gather up a pride of females and spend our days procreating and sleeping. I KNOW I would.
However, we've developed "emotion" and a "conscience" (dang conscience) that prevent us from acting on these biological impulses. IMHO, not always for the right reasons either. I think sometimes the fear of negative repercussions outweighs the idea that what we have is better.
There's lots of reasons people don't cheat, undying love is just one of them, and likely not at the top of the list.
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BUT, I agree with sinjin.
Are we talking on a biological/physical scale? Or our "emotional" one.
IMHO, biologically we aren't much different than the average male lion. We are attracted to most anything, and if we could, we'd gather up a pride of females and spend our days procreating and sleeping. I KNOW I would.
However, we've developed "emotion" and a "conscience" (dang conscience) that prevent us from acting on these biological impulses. IMHO, not always for the right reasons either. I think sometimes the fear of negative repercussions outweighs the idea that what we have is better.
There's lots of reasons people don't cheat, undying love is just one of them, and likely not at the top of the list.
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Originally posted by carpe_diem
But given the choice of solitude and misery, I will take the former any day.
But given the choice of solitude and misery, I will take the former any day.