Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Engine not cranking sometimes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 27, 2023 | 09:28 PM
  #1  
gman14's Avatar
gman14
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 38
Likes: 2
Engine not cranking sometimes

A couple weeks ago, I went to start my f250, everything was normal until I turned the key to the start position and it was absolute silence. It was really odd because I always turn the key until my glow plug light goes off and everything was normal. All gauges, the radio, all the lights, until I turned the key. I tried a couple more times and on the 3rd time, it cranked and fired right up. I got home and after unloading, I tried it again and it worked perfectly. The next morning, I tried to start and it fired up perfectly again. I thought it might be a weird fluke so I kept driving it but only to places I was fine getting stuck at just in case, so I didn't drive it very much. A few starts later, it did it again but this time it wouldnt start even after multiple tries. I looked around on youtube and found a video that showed how to jump the solenoid up top by unhooking one of the plugs and putting it on the screw on the positive side of the battery. Here is the link since my description isnt ideal :
That worked. I took it home and shut it off. I went to start it again with the key to see what would happen and to my surprise it cranked and fired right up. I tested that a few more times out of curiosity and it cranked and fired every since time. In the video, they mentioned it was the ignition switch so I got a new one and installed it. I tested the truck a few times and everything went perfectly. A few starts after that though, it did it again. Turn the key with all lights working and everything seeming normal, then go to start and complete silence. What are my next steps/ what should I look at replacing to fix this issue?
Thank yall in advance for your help.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 12:43 AM
  #2  
udsuth78's Avatar
udsuth78
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,129
Likes: 1,919
From: Ponca City, OK
Is this truck an auto or manual transmission? If auto try shifting to neutral and try again. If still no love then you should probably check the connector on the range sensor. It's on the driver's side of the transmission, where the shift cable hooks up. The connector can get corroded and cause a no crank. You can also check the bracket at the end of the shift tube where the cable hooks to the column. The screws are known to loosen and cause this issue. Now if it's a manual I'd check the neutral safety switch should be on the clutch pedal assembly but I don't have a manual so not 100%.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 03:15 AM
  #3  
aawlberninf350's Avatar
aawlberninf350
It's a Van Gogh
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Shutterbug
Liked
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,813
Likes: 1,335
From: Elk Grove, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
What udsuth said.

Also try pulling up on the shift lever while in Park while cranking. That can put a sloppy neutral start safety switch into correct alignment.

If that works check in here before buying parts. Other stuff can get loose to cause the issue.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 07:16 AM
  #4  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,123
Likes: 4,725
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
In addition to the what the others have mentioned, it can also be a dirty ignition switch. It is that big white block bolted to the underside of the steering column. Take that off and sprtiz the inside generously with contact cleaner (DeOxit is my fav) and performance should spring right back. I forget who took his apart and really cleaned it out. Be careful if you go down that path. Rivets have to be drilled out and fiddly little copper bits are just waiting to leap out.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 07:22 AM
  #5  
Sous's Avatar
Sous
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Veteran: Air Force
Community Builder
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 27,354
Likes: 5,946
From: Lake Hartwell, GA
FTE Emeritus
FTN, I believe this is the thread you seek...

Link: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20405209
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 07:27 AM
  #6  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,123
Likes: 4,725
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Sous
FTN, I believe this is the thread you seek...

Link: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20405209
Thank you. It is indeed.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 11:45 AM
  #7  
gman14's Avatar
gman14
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 38
Likes: 2
It is an automatic. I checked the range sensor and it looked pretty clean to me but included pictures in case I over looked something (they were taken with the flash on to improve lighting). The screws for the bracket are nice and snug. I haven't had a chance to mess with the shift lever since the truck is currently cranking and starting. I replaced the ignition switch yesterday morning (my old one looked pretty clean though) and had the no crank issue later that day. I was hoping that was my solution and was quite wrong when I ended up in a jam.
What are my next steps?




​​​​​​​
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 12:26 PM
  #8  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,123
Likes: 4,725
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Since yours is a 2002 it shouldn’t have a starter relay on the passenger fender but check anyway. The next time you have a no crank, give the starter relay mounted to the starter itself a tap with a hammer.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 28, 2023 | 12:38 PM
  #9  
gman14's Avatar
gman14
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 38
Likes: 2
It does not but I have used the cable up top to jump the starter and it fires right up so I wouldn't think it would be the starter. I know I didn't describe that very well but the video in my first post shows what I did. I have had to do that twice and it worked both times.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 12:49 PM
  #10  
udsuth78's Avatar
udsuth78
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,129
Likes: 1,919
From: Ponca City, OK
Is the shift lever loose or sloppy feeling? Those two little torx screws at the end of the shift tube getting loose is probably the #1 cause of a no crank on auto truck.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 01:22 PM
  #11  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,123
Likes: 4,725
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by gman14
It does not but I have used the cable up top to jump the starter and it fires right up so I wouldn't think it would be the starter. I know I didn't describe that very well but the video in my first post shows what I did. I have had to do that twice and it worked both times.
Then it sounds like the signal wire to the starter relay is broken.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 01:32 PM
  #12  
gman14's Avatar
gman14
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 38
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by udsuth78
Is the shift lever loose or sloppy feeling? Those two little torx screws at the end of the shift tube getting loose is probably the #1 cause of a no crank on auto truck.
Shift lever feels good but I did check the screws and they were fine as well.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 01:43 PM
  #13  
gman14's Avatar
gman14
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 38
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Then it sounds like the signal wire to the starter relay is broken.
Wouldn't the truck usually have no crank issues if that were the case or would it be an every now and then thing like I'm having? Also, where does the signal wire start, so I can trace it? I don't have any experience with that.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 01:51 PM
  #14  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,123
Likes: 4,725
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by gman14
Wouldn't the truck usually have no crank issues if that were the case or would it be an every now and then thing like I'm having? Also, where does the signal wire start, so I can trace it? I don't have any experience with that.
There are various degrees of broken when it comes to wires. It is why intermittent faults are so annoying. I'll look up the wire diagram for your starting system.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2023 | 03:20 PM
  #15  
udsuth78's Avatar
udsuth78
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 6,129
Likes: 1,919
From: Ponca City, OK
If I remember correctly it goes from the ignition to the neutral safety switch, in your case a connector plugs into a jumper under the dash, then to the range selector and back up to the PCM. I recently had a similar situation and what helped me finally find the problem was a cheap signal tracer from Harbor Freight. It hooks to the circuit and sends a signal through the wire. Then a hand held wand gives an audible tone when in range. You follow along the wire until you loose the tone and there's the trouble spot. Easy as that.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE