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Old May 23, 2023 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
I would say sometimes but not always. Let’s say the ignition is faltering, perhaps due to low input voltage, bad coil, fouled plugs, etc. Lots of unburnt fuel can get dumped into the exhaust. Once in contact with a hot spot in the exhaust, it ignites and pops out the tailpipe.

A timing problem can do the same thing, but is more likely to pop through the intake.
I think you are right about the low battery poor ignition theory, I jumped on the headline without reading the story too closely.
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 02:58 PM
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I think you are right...
How long have you been hanging around the forum? Don’t you know there’s no need to point out when I’m right?


 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 03:49 PM
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I hope you found an auto parts store that can test your ALT and has a replacement if needed. My story, Advance Auto Parts tested my old one and told me Car Quest had the ALT I needed, which was a couple miles down the street. I went there, they swapped the pulley over onto the new ALT.

 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
How long have you been hanging around the forum? Don’t you know there’s no need to point out when I’m right?

Long enough to know where in the back eddies to toss my lure...

 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 07:22 PM
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While several folks mentioned having good connections at the battery, I didn't see anyone mention checking the other ends of the cables. Nor have I seen anyone ask about the age/condition of the cables or type of connectors : bonded or crimped. I'd take a look at them before throwing on a new alternator.
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:00 PM
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Cables and connectors are in good shape. A few weeks ago I had gone through those and cleaned the battery posts and clamps.
Got an alternator from Autozone, 70 amp, lifetime warranty, $130.
Swapped the pulley and installed.
The battery held its voltage (12.3) through the day after charging overnight.
New readings are 13.7 from alternator. We will see how she performs going to work tomorrow morning.
 
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Old May 24, 2023 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
While several folks mentioned having good connections at the battery, I didn't see anyone mention checking the other ends of the cables. Nor have I seen anyone ask about the age/condition of the cables or type of connectors : bonded or crimped. I'd take a look at them before throwing on a new alternator.
Can't speak for the others, but I didn't want to send him down this path just yet. All symptoms seemed to point towards a rundown battery, for reasons unknown at the time. But with a full charge, the starter system behaved normally. That would indicate the big cables are in good condition, so I saw no need to continue testing them. I know many guys like to disassemble cable connections for a cleaning, and perhaps it makes them feel good, but nothing was pointing in that direction. I'm lazy and proud of it. It's kinda like how a doctor doesn't test you for Ebola when you have symptoms of the common cold.

It's possible to have a bad connection between the alternator and battery, but that is not very common, so I hadn't suggested anything there yet.

I was considering the next steps, such as full-fielding the alternator to test it, etc. Not quite loading the parts catapult, but the alternator was probably 90% likely to be the root cause. I guess it all boils down to how much do you want to test before trying something. And in this case, the alternator was a very good educated gamble that appears to have paid off.

And now Grasshopper, you must take this pebble from my hand...
 
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Old May 24, 2023 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fet
We will see how she performs going to work tomorrow morning.
Well? It's now tomorrow evening...
 
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Old May 25, 2023 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Well? It's now tomorrow evening...
No it's not, tomorrow evening is tomorrow.
 
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Old May 25, 2023 | 05:32 AM
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No it's not, tomorrow evening is tomorrow.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
 
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Old May 25, 2023 | 06:26 AM
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Lol. I wound up keeping the company vehicle over night so I'll be taking the truck this morning.
 
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Old May 25, 2023 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
This is why we can’t have nice things.
Sign at a local watering hole,

"Free Beer Tomorrow"
 
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Old May 25, 2023 | 09:48 AM
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40 minute ride to work and she did great. Didn't notice any issues. I think we're good.
 
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Originally Posted by fet
40 minute ride to work and she did great. Didn't notice any issues. I think we're good.
This is a serious breach of forum protocol. After starting a thread, standard follow-up procedure around here is to leave it open and unresolved, so we are forever wondering how the problem was fixed. It may be necessary for the board to meet and consider disciplinary action, up to and including promotion to moderator.

All seriousness aside, you might want to consider adding a voltmeter to your truck. If you have an idiot light, it only tells you about the problem after the fact, if at all. If you have factory gauges, the ammeter typically doesn't work, and even if does, it barely registers when a slow discharge occurs. A voltmeter is nice because you can see a problem when it first starts, long before it causes trouble.

One option if you have factory gauges:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...olt-meter.html

I did this on my truck and it works great, and looks factory.


Or you can get a doohickey (sorry for the technical terminology) that plugs into the cigarette lighter socket and displays the voltage. I have one in my car, with an alarm that starts chirping below 11.8V. One catch with our trucks, as the lighter socket is always powered. I rewired my truck's socket (a very simple change) so it's only powered in Run or Accessory. Details here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-usb-port.html
 
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Old May 25, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Yes, great idea. I did order one for it. Thanks
 
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