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Old May 20, 2023 | 05:10 PM
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5th wheel jerking

This drives me nuts. When stopping or starting, the 5th wheel clunks, jerks, makes noise. It is a Curt A20. Is this normal for 5th wheel hitches? Would I be better off with a different brand? Would the Q20, which I have in the barn, be a better hitch or do the same thing? Would a Moryde pinbox with the sliding pin suspension resolve it? The hitch is only two years old, so no wear other than some scratches.
 
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Old May 20, 2023 | 08:33 PM
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I have the B&W Companion with the Moryde pin box on my Arctic Fox, and do not experience any issues you are describing.
 
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Old May 20, 2023 | 10:00 PM
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You need to determine where the slop is.

The pucks? The pins? The jaws?

Have someone put it in forward and reverse while you stand outside the bed and watch it.

 
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Old May 20, 2023 | 10:00 PM
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My 5th wheel hitch doesn't jerk, clunk or make noise at anytime. Something is wrong with yours. Is your pin worn on the 5th wheel? Jaws closing properly?
 
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Old May 21, 2023 | 08:39 AM
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My first fifth wheel setup was a Reese hitch and a cheap pinbox. It was rough on stops and starts and made a lot of noise. After that I had a Moreride pinbox with a B&W hitch which was worlds better. So much smoother. My current setup is a Reese Goosebox, which is even better.
 
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Old May 21, 2023 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by elee3
My first fifth wheel setup was a Reese hitch and a cheap pinbox. It was rough on stops and starts and made a lot of noise. After that I had a Moreride pinbox with a B&W hitch which was worlds better. So much smoother. My current setup is a Reese Goosebox, which is even better.
My first Cameo 5th wheel had the MorRyde pin on the trailer but it wasnt the MorRyde rubber pinbox we have now. What a world of difference no jerking/ chucking feeling at all.
 
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Old May 21, 2023 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
This drives me nuts. When stopping or starting, the 5th wheel clunks, jerks, makes noise. It is a Curt A20. Is this normal for 5th wheel hitches? Would I be better off with a different brand? Would the Q20, which I have in the barn, be a better hitch or do the same thing? Would a Moryde pinbox with the sliding pin suspension resolve it? The hitch is only two years old, so no wear other than some scratches.
First you have to figure out where the noise is coming from, if it's in the jaws there isn't much you can do. I tried a lot of different things with our now in the scrap yard 20K Reese with some success but it never completely fixed it. I'm now running a Draw Tight Supper Light hitch that's a ball and socket style on standard rails with a standard king pin and all bumping and clunking is gone.

The reason you are getting a bump when applying the brakes is your trailer is moving forward when the truck brakes are applied because the trailer brakes aren't coming in hard enough or not at all and then you get the clunk when taking off when the trailer pulls back on the hitch taking up the play.

Denny

 
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Old May 21, 2023 | 03:12 PM
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@rvpuller , do you have a model number or link to the Draw Tight Supper Light hitch you use?
 
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Old May 21, 2023 | 06:39 PM
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@rvpuller , do you have a model number or link to the Draw Tight Supper Light hitch you use?
Sorry senior moment it's a Pullrite not Draw Tight.
Amazon Amazon

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Old May 21, 2023 | 07:25 PM
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No slop with this, at all.


 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 02:27 PM
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OK, after much observing and looking over, here is what I found. First, the puck locks were sloppy. so the entire hitch was rocking a bit. Found some thin bushings and all four are tight. Clunk is gone. The SKRUNK noise was the jaws rubbing metal on metal on the pin, some grease on the pin and inside the jaws solved it, noise is gone. Jerking is all that is left and that is due to the head being on rubber isolation mounts that allow the head to move fore/aft and side to side. Part of the jerking is of course the trailer brake gain. I have it down to 7 since the ACC will tend to hit them really hard when it has to slow abruptly which was causing a pull. When I had it at 8.5 it would lock the trailer brakes up if using the ACC on the highway and got cutoff. Now the entire rig brakes smoothly, but it does allow for movement when stopping and starting. The pin is tight in the jaws, so no movement there, base is tight to the pucks, so no movement there, the only movement is via the isolators between head and base, so thats where the jerking happens.
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 03:01 PM
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By looking far down the road, and thinking ahead, by feathering in both brakes and power, you can make this disappear most of the time. Be smooth as silk. Or be like me, and ignore it.
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 03:24 PM
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Thankfully on my trip home from the last camp ground, I didn't have the moron who doesn't speed up to the speed limit to merge get in front of me to activate the Adaptive cruise brakes. Had quite a few of those going through Dallas, one where I locked up all four axles.
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 04:49 PM
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Does that Curt head have serviceable bushings?

Maybe they are just worn out and need replacing.


 
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Old May 24, 2023 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by longhaultransport
Does that Curt head have serviceable bushings?

Maybe they are just worn out and need replacing.
Considering it is only 2 years old and used 3 times, I would HOPE they are not worn out! It is stored in the barn when not in use, so no direct sunlight to age it either.
 
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