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Old May 19, 2023 | 05:53 AM
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Minute Masters has an excellent video on Youtube that shows how to run both the KOEO and KOER tests with an inexpensive innova 3145 code reader
You can find that reader on Amazon or at summit racing for around $35-$40.
If you are going to keep the truck long term a code reader is an excellent investment. It can keep you from chasing your tail throwing unnecessary parts at it.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 10:22 AM
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And the video said for KOER test to press overdrive button, I have an AOD, is that step just skipped or is there another step in place of that?
That step in the KOER tests only applies for trucks with an E4OD or 4R70W.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by yeet
Minute Masters has an excellent video on Youtube that shows how to run both the KOEO and KOER tests with an inexpensive innova 3145 code reader
This is the video I saw to use a paper clip for now.
I saw the minute masters one, I’ll get that scanner eventually. I have it saved.

Originally Posted by Prototypemech
I remember the AC switch, the throttle jab, the brake pedal switch, and the power steering pressure switch needing to be cycled.
So as of right now my AC doesn’t function, can I still do the test, and just ignore AC codes if it throws any?
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 02:23 PM
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I think code 22 and 12. I have to redo it I was doing it in a rush, but that’s what I saw. For KOEO. I need to do KOER still. But I haven’t driven it so I need to drive it first. Is code 22 and 12 related? I googled 22 people were asking about MAP sensors and grounds, and 12 I saw about rough idle.
My truck idles fine when I start it up though it lopes up and down 2-3 times but after that it’s fine. The lope isn’t severe though.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 02:34 PM
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Code 12 is a KOER only code.

Code 22: MAP sensor out of self test range. That will definitely affect MPGs and performance.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 02:41 PM
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12 Idle Speed Control motor or Air Bypass not controlling idle properly (generally idle too low) - ISC
22 MAP (vacuum) or BARO signal out of range - MAP

How to test

https://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/fo...e-map-sensor-1

https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/I...roubleshooting


List of Ford OBD1 two digit codes

https://www.therangerstation.com/tec...gitcodes.shtml

 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 02:59 PM
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For code 12, I cleaned the IAC, and it ran better, and I googled “ISC” and it showed “IAC” is that something I need to clear codes to get rid of it?

 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 03:02 PM
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They are one in the same. Use the test procedure I posted above to properly check the IAC operation. Cleaning can be a temporary fix at times.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 03:44 PM
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Code 12 is a KOER only code. No way you can get that in KOEO tests or Stored Codes.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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Here’s the video of the codes, I must’ve looked away for the second code, would the second be a 13? Or is the 4th flash a part of that code? I think it’s saying it’s done flashing because it doesn’t flash after that. It’s not a 12.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 04:56 PM
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That looks like 22 to me. Map sensor. You have spent so much time and money on your truck surely you can get a reader and your truck deserves one.
 
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The readers are great. No guess work.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 05:09 PM
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Is this the right one?
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 07:05 PM
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OP - yes. Buy that reader. It's a must have item in your garage for these trucks. Also get a Haynes manual or Chiltons. Or both. Then spend some time with the book or youtube learning how to read the KOEO and KOER codes, stored codes, clearing codes, etc. That will help you cut through the fog and know what to chase down first. Don't start chasing several things at once.
 
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Old May 19, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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By the way, my 95 302 4wd still doesn't get 11 MPG. When I first got it I was lucky to get 8-9 MPG.
 
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