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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:14 AM
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2004 Excursion - A/C Clutch

2004 Excursion (EB)- A/C Clutch
My AC blows warm air. One of the troubleshooting steps is to determine whether the clutch is engaged/spinning. I couldn't find any good video to help with this visual inspecting, mainly because of the pully location.
Any suggestion?
 
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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:18 AM
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The front-most edge of what looks like the pulley assembly, which has a sort of triangular shape, is part of the clutch. If it isn't spinning, the clutch is not engaged. You should hear a distinctive "click" when the clutch engages and starts to spin.
 
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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:23 AM
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Thanks for the prompt response, i couldn't determine whether its spinning even with a light , too hard to reach. I didn't try from the bottom though. Might be that's the better way.
Anyway, thanks for the prompt response, appreciate.
 
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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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Better viewing from the bottom for sure. Good luck!
 
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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:41 AM
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Here is a good instructional video on how to replace the clutch, if that proves to be the problem. My AC clutch was starting to fall apart (the 3 rubber tabs failing) after 200,000 miles.

 

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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Getting an error on that link.

Similarly, I replaced my clutch at around 175k miles.

There are several good videos out there showing it, just a matter of getting a good view.
 
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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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Youtube link fixed
 
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Old May 11, 2023 | 10:56 AM
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Makuloco videos are GREAT!

Here is another view of what to look for (go to time stamp 9:18).

 
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Old May 11, 2023 | 11:04 AM
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Thank you all
 
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Old May 13, 2023 | 06:44 PM
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Jumping the LP switch spins the AC clutch so i started to recharge the refrigerant and it started to blow cold air. I was happy until I realized few hours later that I have a leak. it went down to 0.
I think i hear a noise in the accumulator.
I need to do a leak test and ran into:

Do you have any other youtube you recommend?
what compressor oil?
 
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Old May 13, 2023 | 09:46 PM
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If your unsure if the AC is charged correctly or its the clutch, jump out the low pressure switch for the AC and see what happens. If the AC compressor engages when you bypass the low pressure switch it had a low refrigerant charge. Now if the compressor runs without having to jump it out, and quits running after awhile(10 to 20 minutes or whatever time), its the clutch. The easiest way to fix it is loosenthe center bolt of AC compressor completely, remove the clutch and bolt in one piece paying attention to both washers coming off with the bolt/clutch, then remove the thinner washer and reassemble. The thin washer is typically. 060". Removing it will allow the compressor to lock back up. Doing that has saved me a few hundred dollars a few times now of not having to replace the clutch.
 
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i already done that, my problem is now a leak. I need to run a leak test and looking for video recommendation and whether i should use soap or dye and whether i should use stop leak products.
 
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Originally Posted by AITOS
i already done that, my problem is now a leak. I need to run a leak test and looking for video recommendation and whether i should use soap or dye and whether i should use stop leak products.

Sorry, my bad I didnt read the whole thing
 
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what compressor oil?
You could buy generic PAG 46 oil or spend more for the Motorcraft

https://parts.lakelandford.com/p/for...829/YN12D.html

 
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Old May 16, 2023 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AITOS
i already done that, my problem is now a leak. I need to run a leak test and looking for video recommendation and whether i should use soap or dye and whether i should use stop leak products.
I would never use stop leak products for fear of it plugging up something critical.

For leak detection, I bought a kit with dye, color balanced glasses, and a UV flashlight. Put the dye in, charge the system, run it for a few days, and go searching for leaks after dark. Just be careful to keep from getting the dye everywhere. And be prepared to remove the cover of the evaporator box if you don't see any leaks elsewhere.
 
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