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Old Jan 22, 2024 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Florit17
My brother has the software for his fleet, he's the one who suggested I add it to my order. My uncle also has the software, he's a Boss dealer.
Excellent. I have my configuration ready to go. Unfortunately I have a Job 1 truck, so there were some modules that needed sw updates as a prerequisite to installing the CIM, During that process my dealer bricked by BCM and I have been waiting over a month now for the dealer to get the replacement.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2024 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BDWSD22
The upfitter system has been available since 2017 and now I find out that it integrates to the Sync 3 and 4. Also that It can be added as a FORD accessory from parts.

I already have the upfitter switches on my '22 F-350 SCLB 6.7L Lariat and am considering on board power generation from the PTO option that I included. I have a bunch of auxiliary lighting to install as well and I want to integrate this into my Sync 4 display. I'll talk to FORD parts and see what level of integration is possible.

Thank you for the info y'all! You've been very helpful!
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The Ford Pro Upfit Integration System (UIS) being discussed here is supposed to be new for the 2023 SD. Possibly released last year on other models but new nonetheless. Everything I have seen and read on it indicates that it is a new feature. Being that it interfaces with Sync 4, maybe there is a way to make it backwards compatible with your 2022.
There is no need to make Upfitters Integration backwards compatible, because it was available prior to 2022 as a factory option, before Ford began marketing everything fleet and upfit related under the brand "FordPro."

As an example, three years ago I bought a bare incomplete 2021 F-550 chassis cab off the back lot of a local fleet department that came equipped with Upfitters Integration module as installed in production, and as listed and priced on the Monroni window sticker.

Already knowing that the 2021 was destined to just be a simple flat bed, I pulled the Upfitters Integration module (located behind and below lower glove box) from the 2021 F-550 to save for later, to eventually apply to a 2019 F-550 that is already fitted with a body application appropriate for a planned purpose more likely to benefit from the integration.

At this juncture, I will assure readers that I am not confusing Upfitter Switches with the separate Upfitter Integration module that actually integrates into the vehicle's data network in order to allow vocational equipment to access vehicle operational status (if door is ajar, if transmission is in gear, what RPM the engine is running at, if parking brake is set, truck is in regen, etc) that might effect safety or function of the vocational equipment. As such, Upfitter Integration System is much more complex than operator controlled Upfitter switches.

There may be electrical / firmware / software / pin-out / circuit differences between Upfitter Integration modules for model years 2022 and earlier, versus model years 2023 and later, when Ford refreshed the Super Duty inside and out, and the UIS became rebranded under the FordPro umbrella. Therefore, it is wiser to order the UIS system for the appropriate model year, rather than try to retrofit a 2023 system to a 2022 vehicle.

But make no mistake, there was indeed an Upfitter Integration Module available for model years prior to 2022, and this is reported from first hand experience in that the module itself was actually in my hands as I pulled it out of the 2021 that I bought off the lot.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2024 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
There is no need to make Upfitters Integration backwards compatible, because it was available prior to 2022 as a factory option, before Ford began marketing everything fleet and upfit related under the brand "FordPro."

As an example, three years ago I bought a bare incomplete 2021 F-550 chassis cab off the back lot of a local fleet department that came equipped with Upfitters Integration module as installed in production, and as listed and priced on the Monroni window sticker.

Already knowing that the 2021 was destined to just be a simple flat bed, I pulled the Upfitters Integration module (located behind and below lower glove box) from the 2021 F-550 to save for later, to eventually apply to a 2019 F-550 that is already fitted with a body application appropriate for a planned purpose more likely to benefit from the integration.

At this juncture, I will assure readers that I am not confusing Upfitter Switches with the separate Upfitter Integration module that actually integrates into the vehicle's data network in order to allow vocational equipment to access vehicle operational status (if door is ajar, if transmission is in gear, what RPM the engine is running at, if parking brake is set, truck is in regen, etc) that might effect safety or function of the vocational equipment. As such, Upfitter Integration System is much more complex than operator controlled Upfitter switches.

There may be electrical / firmware / software / pin-out / circuit differences between Upfitter Integration modules for model years 2022 and earlier, versus model years 2023 and later, when Ford refreshed the Super Duty inside and out, and the UIS became rebranded under the FordPro umbrella. Therefore, it is wiser to order the UIS system for the appropriate model year, rather than try to retrofit a 2023 system to a 2022 vehicle.

But make no mistake, there was indeed an Upfitter Integration Module available for model years prior to 2022, and this is reported from first hand experience in that the module itself was actually in my hands as I pulled it out of the 2021 that I bought off the lot.

The UIM (Upfitter Integration Module) was the precursor to the current UIS (Upfitter Integration System) in Super Duty. The UIM was available, or still available, on these vehicles:
  • Super Duty: 2017 - 2022
  • Transit: 2020 and newer
  • E-Series: 2021 and newer
  • F-650 / F-750: 2021 and newer
Although the hardware modules are similar in nature, they are physically different, as well as the software. What they share in common, is access to the CAN bus signals, and the ability to create logic based on these signals, in conjunction with input & output signals available on the modules. What the UIS brings to the table and makes it a game changer is the ability to create custom soft buttons on the Sync 4 screen as another control option for the module functions. It also contains a "secure Idle" function that allows you to keep the vehicle running, with high idle, and remove the key from the vehicle and keep it locked in park.

The programming of the UIM is with a standalone Windows app and a USB cable. The UIS programming is much more complicated. It does require SW on a PC but is cloud based (where the files are validated and stored) and loaded via the OBD port. But the bottom line is they are similar systems, but not the same or compatible with each other.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 01:11 AM
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New to the site, so thanks for the add!

I'm a Ford guy from way back; 1979 shortbed 4x4 to be exact. Had a few more since then, and now looking to add a 2024 to the long list of Fords.

I'd like to understand the 'meat-and-potatoes' of this UIS stuff. I understand how it gets inputs from the vehicle's CAN bus, but how does it output things. For example, I'll have fog and driving lights that I want to come on when I put the high beams on. I know there's an input from the CAN bus that turns on when the high beams are on. How do I mechanically connect that output to the fog and driving lights? I assume it goes through a relay, so is there a wire I connect from the UIS to the relay to turn the fog and driving lights on? As another example, I want to use it to turn on an onboard compressor, and there'll be a few other things I want to integrate as well.

Also, are there third parties that do these integrations, or is it solely the purview of the service departments in the dealerships? I'm in the Portland, Oregon area.
 
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New to the site, so thanks for the add!

I'm a Ford guy from way back; 1979 shortbed 4x4 to be exact. Had a few more since then, and now looking to add a 2024 to the long list of Fords.

I'd like to understand the 'meat-and-potatoes' of this UIS stuff. I understand how it gets inputs from the vehicle's CAN bus, but how does it output things. For example, I'll have fog and driving lights that I want to come on when I put the high beams on. I know there's an input from the CAN bus that turns on when the high beams are on. How do I mechanically connect that output to the fog and driving lights? I assume it goes through a relay, so is there a wire I connect from the UIS to the relay to turn the fog and driving lights on? As another example, I want to use it to turn on an onboard compressor, and there'll be a few other things I want to integrate as well.

Also, are there third parties that do these integrations, or is it solely the purview of the service departments in the dealerships? I'm in the Portland, Oregon area.
Yes, there are two wire harnesses that connect to the CIM that have a variety of inputs and outputs that are mapped in the software to the logic programmed. It looks like you have a Knapheide truck body in Portland. Try them. I don’t think the dealers have any knowledge of how to program these.


You can go to this link and download bulletin Q-358R3 for additional information.

https://fordbbas.com/bulletins
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Florit17
My brother has the software for his fleet, he's the one who suggested I add it to my order. My uncle also has the software, he's a Boss dealer.
How can I get this software we run a small company not big enough to meet the Ford fleet requirements but we ordered our trucks with the up fit modules. Would your brother or uncle be interested in helping me get set up in some way
 
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Old Aug 16, 2024 | 03:37 PM
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How can I get this software we run a small company not big enough to meet the Ford fleet requirements but we ordered our trucks with the up fit modules. Would your brother or uncle be interested in helping me get set up in some way


I doubt you will find anyone willing to do that. Where are you located?

Here is a link to find Ford authorized upfitters near you. Many of these would have access to the necessary tools.

https://www.fordupfits.com/findanupfitter
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Haydenmorgan
How can I get this software we run a small company not big enough to meet the Ford fleet requirements but we ordered our trucks with the up fit modules. Would your brother or uncle be interested in helping me get set up in some way
i am with you i wish i could find the software as i only have one truck also but would like to be able to get the software to make the switches on the screen
 
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