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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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I've done 100s of oil changes before... I've never seen olive green oil before...






Pretty weird, huh?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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Wow that is weird! Is that also what Motorcraft 5w20 looks like, or does just the Ford factory fill look like this?

I believe I've read on this site that some Castrol Syntec made in Germany has a green color. Correct me if I'm wrong on this one!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Fueliegalaxie: I may have blown it. The article I mentioned with the opposing view is more of a mix (I had seen it referenced in Noria's book on how to select a motor oil). I will post the reference as it has some interesting stuff. The article is about halfway down the page where it says "Consider This . . . By Drew D. Troyer" (the first section promotes straight weight oils). Drew's article points out how much better today's oils are and gives a little economic analysis to show that the fuel savings of the thinner oil are worth while (according to his assuumptions).http://www.machinerylubrication.com/...up=Maintenance
 
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Interesting infor from Shell, Xyzzy. I think that what is meant by "closer tolerances" is not a smaller space between the bearing and the journal, for example, but that the deviation of the surface of the journal is tighter--big difference. Somewhere I read that even the SL rated gasoline oils were suffering some from this environmentalist effect and that the best is an SH. I thought the Chevron DELO 400 and Valvoline Premium Blue were SJ, but not sure. Shell Rotella is SL. I don't think you can get an SH. John Deere also makes 15w40, both dino and semi-synthetic. Anyway, I will check out that Shell site. My Haynes manual says 15w40 is good down to 10 F. That green oil is really weird. Ever see Rislone. It is blue-green from a dye they add. I wonder if Royal Purple oil is purple? BTW, the phosphorus was limited to 0.1 percent to supposedly protect the converter, but now Ford wants to half that number. I believe the HDMOs are more like 0.15 percent phosphorus.

There are a bunch of good oil articles at this site:
http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/BaseOils/articles.shtml

Go there and download the first two articles under the "OEM Requirements" section of that site (as summarized below). These will shed light on the new, light weight oils:

What do automakers want most from engine oils?
by David McFall
Lubes'N'Greases, Mar. 2001. 4 pages.
"The answer may depend on which automaker you ask. Fuel economy, emissions system compatibility, and wear protection everyone¹s list and maybe extended oil life. But that leaves plenty of room for divergence among Detroit¹s Big Three, Ford, DaimlerChrysler and General Motors."

5W-20 Engine Oil
by David McFall
Lubes'N'Greases, Feb. 2001. 4 pages.
"Why 5W-20? Why Now? Ford doesn't mince words: "Moving to 5W-20 was driven by using best technology oils, CAFE requirements and customer needs," said Mike Riley, product design engineer..."
 

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