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From: Chaz
Get some G 14ply on your next tire purchase.
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From: Chaz
F150 factory optional hitches are junk.
More Turbo
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Ole dude pulling that boat better hope he doesn't end up like this guy from back in 2021.
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2021/...le/6378397001/
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2021/...le/6378397001/
Lead Driver
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From: Kaysville Utah
That would help. Problem is I borrow this trailer when I need a load of hay and it's not mine to change. Owner just hauls a couple SXS on it. He is a trailer dealer and swaps out his demo trailers almost yearly, So no incentive to pull tires and replace
Beggars can't be fussy. I just live with in the limits
Beggars can't be fussy. I just live with in the limits
Fleet Mechanic
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Yeah that pic was from a few years ago, I adjusted the WD hitch a couple times since.
As for the receiver on the Jeep, it was rated for 500lbs but was nothing more than a 8" c-channel that wrapped around the square cross tube on the jeep rear, I'm pretty sure it wasn't designed to take the loads of a WD hitch.
As for the receiver on the Jeep, it was rated for 500lbs but was nothing more than a 8" c-channel that wrapped around the square cross tube on the jeep rear, I'm pretty sure it wasn't designed to take the loads of a WD hitch.
Mountain Pass
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I get sick at how many RV manufacturers sell “half-ton fifth wheels". People who look at tow weight but not hitch weight get suckered in - it almost happened to me.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
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I get sick at how many RV manufacturers sell “half-ton fifth wheels". People who look at tow weight but not hitch weight get suckered in - it almost happened to me.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
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From: Frederick, MD
I get sick at how many RV manufacturers sell “half-ton fifth wheels". People who look at tow weight but not hitch weight get suckered in - it almost happened to me.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
20% for 5th wheel and 10% for TT's is the best advice for what true weights will be.
Cargo Master
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From: Walpole, MA
I get sick at how many RV manufacturers sell “half-ton fifth wheels". People who look at tow weight but not hitch weight get suckered in - it almost happened to me.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
Yup! MF's and dealers look strictly at towing capacity, and ignore everything else. "Hey your F150 can tow 9200 lbs, lets get you in this 8500 lb dry camper", don't mind the hitch weight, it's under 9300 dry.... Nevermind that once you pack everything in you'll be closer to 10k and over the towing capacity anyway....
Mountain Pass
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Walnut Ridge RV in New Castle Indiana - our salesman gave us none of that crap. Good outfit.
There are others, but trust no one. Do your own homework.
There are others, but trust no one. Do your own homework.
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I get sick at how many RV manufacturers sell “half-ton fifth wheels". People who look at tow weight but not hitch weight get suckered in - it almost happened to me.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
My F250 diesel will be towing a “half-ton” fifth wheel at ~32 feet, 11000lb GVWR, and a 1600lb unloaded hitch weight. That’s perfect - with air bags, it should tow like it’s not even there.
Replace my truck with an F150, and you’ve got a disaster on your hands, whether the RV says “half-ton” on the cap or not.
A properly optioned F150 will have a tow capacity AND a cargo capacity to match, higher cargo capacity rating than a F250(which has an artificially low rating).
This allows that F150 to properly tow that 11K GVWR 5th wheel.
But, most F150's you find on a dealer lot are not properly optioned for such a towing job, but you can get one that is.
I almost always exceed the cargo rating of my F250 when towing, and it doesn't bother me a bit because I know I am not exceeding the tire or axle ratings. The cargo rating of the F250 is very low due to its artificially low GVWR, set that way to avoid commercial license ratings and tax entanglements in some situations.
Fleet Mechanic
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Well, not exactly how it is.
A properly optioned F150 will have a tow capacity AND a cargo capacity to match, higher cargo capacity rating than a F250(which has an artificially low rating).
This allows that F150 to properly tow that 11K GVWR 5th wheel.
But, most F150's you find on a dealer lot are not properly optioned for such a towing job, but you can get one that is.
A properly optioned F150 will have a tow capacity AND a cargo capacity to match, higher cargo capacity rating than a F250(which has an artificially low rating).
This allows that F150 to properly tow that 11K GVWR 5th wheel.
But, most F150's you find on a dealer lot are not properly optioned for such a towing job, but you can get one that is.
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Trim for trim and option for option an F250 has a higher payload and towing capacity than an F150. An XL F150 can possibly have a higher capacity than a Limited Diesel F250, but thats not apples to apples. Very few F150 buyers actually read past the payload and tow ratings to find out they are for the XL trucks. Lariat and above trims for the F150 you're lucky to have 1,500lbs to work with lightly optioned.
And, yes, was comparing to a diesel F250 for cargo, but not tow ratings.