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Old Mar 11, 2023 | 03:05 PM
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2016 F350 Drivers Window. Need help.

Little background. I’m a retired army mechanic and have worked as one civilian side as well. Just can’t find the information I’m looking for.

just updated my old 7.3 to a ‘16 6.7 and love the truck. But the drivers window doesn’t work.

I’ve checked the harness at the motor. No power on the red wire that’s supposed to be Batt voltage, disconnected it in the hinge area…. No broken wire, and no batt voltage at the pin in the door jam.

saw someone in a topic mention fuse 1 in the passenger compartment… 30a fuse they said was for the drivers window motor power. Checked it and it has voltage.

So between the drivers door pillar and the passenger side fuse block, does anyone know where that wire runs or if that fuse I tested is the right one?

On this diagram it’s the red wire, no voltage. All the continuations of the diagram I found are paywalled.

https://portal-diagnostov.com/en/2020/04/11/power-windows-ford-f-250-super-duty-xlt-2014-system-wiring-diagrams/

thanks for any assistance. Gonna want a working window in the spring/summer.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2023 | 10:23 PM
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The link to the diagram in the link you posted looks slightly different from the diagram in the factory wiring diagram. The solid red wire you speak of at pin #2 of your driver's power window motor should have 12 volts at all times. If there isn't 12 volts there, check fuse #12 (30A) inside the battery junction box (fuse panel in the engine compartment at the driver side rear corner). If the fuse checks out good, you have an open circuit between the fuse, either somewhere in the engine compartment harness or instrument panel harness, the only two places that circuit goes through before reaching the door pillar you speak of. The only other fuses I see involved in the function of the power windows, are fuses #32 (15A) and #48 (30A) inside the BCM (fuse panel behind the passenger side kick panel). What you should be checking for ground, is the black with white stripe wire at the window motor connector (pin #!). FYI, you should have two connectors on your driver's door master control switch. One is green, and the other is black. Both have eight pins. On the green connector, seven out of the eight pins are used. On the black connector, only four of the eight are used. This is assuming your truck is a crew cab configuration. On the green connector, there should be solid blue wire that will be your power feed to your window switches. Since we're discussing the driver's door, on the black connector mentioned above, the yellow with violet tracer (pin #7) wire will be powered up with the driver's window switch placed in the down position. The blue with grey tracer (pin #3) wire will be powered up when the driver's window switch is placed in the up position. I have racked my brain out trying unsuccessfully to post this wiring diagram, so I hope what little information I could provide helps.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
The link to the diagram in the link you posted looks slightly different from the diagram in the factory wiring diagram. The solid red wire you speak of at pin #2 of your driver's power window motor should have 12 volts at all times. If there isn't 12 volts there, check fuse #12 (30A) inside the battery junction box .
Thanks. I’ll let you know. I’m guessing this was the bit of info I was missing right here.

I’d seen mentioned that the Red wire was Fuse #1 in the passenger kick panel, so I’d checked that and it was good. But that was not an official source so I’m not sure if it was correct or not.

And yes, the red wire has no power at any time to it, but I couldn’t find where that red wire was supposed to go.


I’ll go turn on the shop lights and check that fuse out.
 
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Do the other windows work? Is this a crew cab truck?
 
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
The link to the diagram in the link you posted looks slightly different from the diagram in the factory wiring diagram. The solid red wire you speak of at pin #2 of your driver's power window motor should have 12 volts at all times. If there isn't 12 volts there, check fuse #12 (30A) inside the battery junction box (fuse panel in the engine compartment at the driver side rear corner). .
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

That was 100% the issue. Gotta go get a fuse though, I’ve never kept those square fuses on hand.





Maybe #1 in the kick panel is a different make or model? The other windows power supplies are listed in that box?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 11:48 AM
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Those square fuses don't blow very often. But glad it ended up being a relatively easy fix.
 
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
Those square fuses don't blow very often. But glad it ended up being a relatively easy fix.
yeah. Doesn’t get much cheaper and easier than a fuse.

I'm just trying to figure out why the other info I had seen said fuse 1 in the passenger compartment was the one. Kinda embarrassing.
 
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So your driver's window working again?
 
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
So your driver's window working again?
yup. That dumb fuse was all it was.

so far it hasn’t blown again, but that fuse supplies power to just the window motor. Everything else on the door worked except the window.
 
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Originally Posted by Steel-W0LF
Maybe #1 in the kick panel is a different make or model? The other windows power supplies are listed in that box?
NOPE. Fuse #1 in the BCM (kick panel) is not used. The fuse for the main power supply to the passenger side front window is fuse #3 (30A) in the BCM for circuit SBP03 (blue with red stripe wire).
 
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