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Old Mar 8, 2023 | 02:43 PM
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Turbo Sticking (Help)

Hey everyone, I have 2004 F350 with 61k miles.
I noticed my turbo started sticking so I pulled it off, cleaned it really well everything was moving properly. Put turbo back on and it seems to work good until it gets warmed up and then above 50mph it’s sticking still. Once it warms up even going slower through town it wants to stick open or closed. I took the turbo back off and everything is moving really good, besides the VGT is fairly hard to move back and forth. I’m not sure how easy or hard it is supposed to be so I’m not sure how to compare. Does this warrant a new turbo or is there something else im missing? Pulled codes with Forscan and only code I’m getting is P0299 turbocharger underboost. Also should note that when I took the turbo off this last time it was very black and dirty inside it. Not sure if that is because it was sticking but thought I would mention it. Hopefully someone can give me some insight and I can buy a new turbo knowing it’s going to fix it. Thanks in advance everyone!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2023 | 06:08 PM
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I am going to assume you put the turbo back together correctly so.....

Check and make sure the valve wiring and plug are good on the VGT solenoid.

Have you checked your EBP sensor and tube for clogging? The valve and tube are located left side toward the front of the head, that can cause turbo issues IIRC.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
I am going to assume you put the turbo back together correctly so.....

Check and make sure the valve wiring and plug are good on the VGT solenoid.

Have you checked your EBP sensor and tube for clogging? The valve and tube are located left side toward the front of the head, that can cause turbo issues IIRC.
Yes I pulled the EBP tube and sensor when I did the turbo. It looked good and was clean. I will double check the wiring but all seemed good on that side also.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 11:21 AM
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I had an instance where the MAF sensor plug (main air sensor after air filter) was not plugged in fully and was messing with my turbo on a trip. SInce I am sure that boot came off duting disassembly it is an option to check also.

Let us know what oyu find, I am sure other will be around soon to chip in
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 11:47 AM
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Toss a 16oz bottle of Archoil friction modifier into your motor then go for a drive and see if that gets your turbo unstuck.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 02:12 PM
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How are you determining it's sticking? Usually indicated by watching VGT% and it will go all the way one or the other (15 or 85%).

Post the symptoms you're seeing, it might be something else.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FiveOJester
How are you determining it's sticking? Usually indicated by watching VGT% and it will go all the way one or the other (15 or 85%).

Post the symptoms you're seeing, it might be something else.
yes that’s exactly what I was using, I was using my SCTX4 for VGT readings, then to double check I hooked up forscan on windows and also had the same result. Worked great in town, got up over 50mph and would stick 85 or 15 and then coming back into town it would always be stuck at either 85 or 15. Never got stuck on middle percentages. Also had a bunch of other readings on forscan with no issues or faults detected.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 06:34 PM
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Just be aware that the VGT duty cycle is a command only. It does not tell you what the VGT solenoid is actually doing - only what the PCM wants it to do.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 06:55 PM
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What pressure is the turbo putting out? Have you gone on youtube and watched diesel tech Ron cleaning a turbo? He explains how smooth the collector plate should move.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Naslund
What pressure is the turbo putting out? Have you gone on youtube and watched diesel tech Ron cleaning a turbo? He explains how smooth the collector plate should move.
yeah that’s actually the exact video I watched as I cleaned it. Veins and unison ring move extremely well. VGT **** seems to be harder but not sure. What do you mean by pressure the turbo is putting out? Boost psi? 24-26 if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2023 | 11:15 PM
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Just be aware that the VGT duty cycle is a command only. It does not tell you what the VGT solenoid is actually doing - only what the PCM wants it to do.
that’s what I’m worried about that it isn’t the turbo but something else but not sure how to look into that. But I will say; when the VGT was saying it was sticking, I could tell something was going on before even looking to see if it was sticking. I’m fine with buying a new turbo but don’t want to be back at square one if nothing changes.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 09:18 AM
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The boost sounds good. Does the boost drop down when you notice the sticking?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Naslund
The boost sounds good. Does the boost drop down when you notice the sticking?
Im not sure actually. But when I notice it sticking it seems like it just won’t build boost I get into it and it takes forever then it finally starts building slowly before it finally goes. Takes extra long to build. Would all the black dirtiness inside the turbo be from it sticking open/closed??
 
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Old Mar 10, 2023 | 08:51 PM
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Hey everyone, I have 2004 F350 with 61k miles.
I noticed my turbo started sticking so I pulled it off, cleaned it really well everything was moving properly. Put turbo back on and it seems to work good until it gets warmed up and then above 50mph it’s sticking still. Once it warms up even going slower through town it wants to stick open or closed. I took the turbo back off and everything is moving really good, besides the VGT is fairly hard to move back and forth. I’m not sure how easy or hard it is supposed to be so I’m not sure how to compare. Does this warrant a new turbo or is there something else im missing? Pulled codes with Forscan and only code I’m getting is P0299 turbocharger underboost. Also should note that when I took the turbo off this last time it was very black and dirty inside it. Not sure if that is because it was sticking but thought I would mention it. Hopefully someone can give me some insight and I can buy a new turbo knowing it’s going to fix it. Thanks in advance everyone!


Pictures of turbo when I took it off second time. If you look at turbine fins you can see where I cleaned off to show how black and dirty everything was.
 
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Old May 29, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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I'm a Newbee to diesel world so take my opinion's with a grain of salt but the two pic of the trubo don't look that bad / dirty, and I would say that you may have a mechanical prob because you say you do feel a performance issue I would think it would be good to be monitoring the sensors while the malfunction is happening with forscan your map, ebp, baro, icp, icp v and ipr % I think I have that right, and see if the VGT commanded is going in lines with the sensor reading, yeah I know easier said then done 😂 , the p0299 with out other codes can be a bitch to track down but you do have other performance issues so that should help narrow it down. I have the p0299 & CEL and no perceptible power loss. can you swap out your vgt solenoid with a buddy's maybe?
 
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